2024. This may be the last election. Everybody knows the meme. Tim Poole and it's the guy with

the butterfly and he says, is this civil war? Because that's me. We talk about it quite a bit.

But I do think, well, funny as it is and I love to roll the punches, it's entirely fair.

I didn't just one day come up with this concept. There have been many much smarter individuals

than I who have argued we may be facing another civil war,

especially with what we're seeing now politically with legal disputes, legal challenges, and this bifurcated culture in the United States.

Yeah, maybe.

And this may be the last election.

Don't take my word for it.

Ask Roseanne Barr.

Because she came on this show and she said, she doesn't think there's, she said, there will not be another election.

The argument made was, are you saying that they'll quite literally just have no ballots, no voting?

No, not necessarily.

It could be that we get a North Korea-style election where no one just believes it's actually happening.

But I wonder. So joining us this

morning on the culture war is the author of two books. We have Stephen Marsh. He's recently written,

I think with Andrew Yang, the last election, as well as your other book was the next Civil War.

That's right. Yeah. And then Philibonte is joining as well. Hello everyone. To help us have a fresh

perspective on this,

you know, because I'm the Civil War guy. I'm always talking about it. We have talked before.

Right. Yeah. So do you want to introduce yourself? Well, I mean, I'm Stephen Marsh. I'm a Canadian

writer who wrote a couple of books about what I saw as the crisis facing American politics. And yeah, I'm really happy to be here.

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