The Crime of Electronic Monitoring / Jacob Kang-Brown & James Kilgore

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🗓️ 15 February 2024

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Joining This Is Hell! today are Jacob Kang-Brown and James Gilgore to discuss the uses, abuses, and inequities of the use of wearable electronic monitoring devices in the US criminal legal system. Jacob co-authored the Vera Institute report, "People on Electronic Monitoring," with Jessica Zhang and Ari Kotler. James co-wrote the book, "Understanding E-Carcertation: Electronic Monitoring, the Surveillance State, and the Future of Mass Incarceration," published by The New Press. A new "The Past Inside the Present" follows the interview. Check out Jacob's report here: https://www.vera.org/publications/people-on-electronic-monitoring Check out James' book here: https://thenewpress.com/books/understanding-e-carceration Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access weekly bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thisishell

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0:00.0	I'm going to get a Take it down down.
0:13.0	down.
0:14.0	Take it down. This. This is hell.
0:35.0	Hell.
0:37.0	The future ain't what it used to be.
0:42.0	This is hell. The future ain't what it used to be.
0:43.0	This is hell, and the hoped for future was a future of decarceration, as in the undoing of
0:50.8	mass incarceration, which was enshrined by President Bill Clinton's Crime
0:55.2	Omnibus Bill, a bill strongly supported by Republicans and by Hillary Clinton, which may have
1:00.5	cost her the 2016 election, resulting in Donald Trump becoming president.
1:05.6	While many have been released from prison in recent years, that didn't happen in force until
1:11.4	the COVID virus made landfall here in the US back in early 2020.
1:16.2	And that was far more due to public health concerns than any attempt at rolling back mass incarceration.
1:22.2	In fact during those first few months of COVID we spoke
1:25.7	with Maya Shenwar in Victoria Law co-authors of prison by any other name the
1:30.9	harmful consequences of popular reforms which features a forward by
1:34.8	Michelle Alexander who wrote the new Jim Crow. In that conversation we
1:38.4	discuss these so-called justice systems growing dependence on expanding
1:42.3	uses or use of technologies of surveillance.
1:46.2	There was again hope for many people being granted their freedom from prison and a possible
1:51.0	overhaul of law enforcement in the entire US criminal justice system
1:54.4	in the wake of the police murder of George Floyd and the subsequent uprisings
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