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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

The Cost of Division with Heather McGhee

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

Ms Now, Society & Culture, Withpod, Politics, Versant, News, Why Is This Happening?, Chris Hayes, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Msnbc, Versant Media, Government

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2020

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Why are African Americans getting hit the hardest by the coronavirus? In part, this public health crisis is shining a light on the ramifications of policies and politics rooted in the legacy of racism. And what’s interesting, and what Heather McGhee is writing about for her upcoming book, is the way these racially motivated politics end up creating bad economic policy overall, producing a government that makes everyone worse off. So while we watch scenes of people lining up for miles to get groceries from food banks and hear about unemployed Americans struggling within a broken system to receive some kind of financial relief, Heather McGhee joins to discuss the true cost of a racially divided nation. RELATED LINKS The Sum of Us by Heather McGhee (available for Pre-order) Watch Heather McGhee's TED talk "Racism has a cost for everyone" Listen to Heather McGhee's call with Gary from North Carolina Hear the volcano suggestion Chris Hayes received on air YOU MIGHT ALSO LIKE White Identity Politics with Michael Tesler Dying of Whiteness with Jonathan Metzl

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Societies that have a public health system that is highly functioning, well-coordinated,

0:07.1

and well-resourced are obviously going to do better in a public health crisis.

0:11.8

And we have resisted that in the richest country on the planet, in large part for the past

0:17.6

100 years because of racism.

0:20.8

Hello and welcome to Wise is happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

0:29.3

Well, here I am back in the closet for yet another week of quarantine podcasting out there

0:34.5

in the world.

0:35.5

And I've been thinking about, there's sort of an interesting thing, I think that's happened

0:39.0

in terms of the socioeconomic and racial lines of division in the country with respect

0:43.8

to coronavirus, sort of two things at once.

0:47.0

So at one level, as the data has come in, we are seeing that there are massively disproportionate

0:55.1

effects, particularly for African Americans, but for Black and brown Americans versus white

0:59.9

Americans.

1:00.9

We've seen this in the fatality numbers, particularly in places like New York, Louisiana,

1:04.4

and Detroit.

1:05.7

And there's a bunch of reasons that contribute to that, some of which I think we'll probably

1:10.0

discuss in today's conversation.

1:11.7

There's sort of two stacked on top of each other, the fact that African Americans in the

1:16.3

U.S. because of the long legacy of white supremacy and racism are more susceptible to a bunch

1:23.0

of preexisting conditions that essentially compound the danger of coronavirus.

1:27.9

And also the medical care they get now, even in the hospital, there's study after study

1:33.5

that shows the ways in which racism and racial lenses negatively affect their treatment.

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