The Convergence of Russia and China with Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman (Ret.)
The Lincoln Project
The Lincoln Project
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🗓️ 22 March 2023
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Host Reed Galen is joined by retired United States Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman who was the former Director for European Affairs for the United States National Security Council. They discuss the current state of the war in Ukraine, why ultra-MAGA’s pro-Russia rhetoric encourages Putin to prolong the war, how the U.S support of Ukraine offers a very favorable return on investment in terms of American interests on the global stage (especially with regard to China), and what does Xi Jinping’s recent trip to Moscow mean for the relationship between Russia and China? If you’d like to connect with The Lincoln Project, send an email to [email protected].
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| 0:49.9 | Welcome back to the Lincoln project. I'm your host, Reed Gailey. Today, I'm joined by retired |
| 0:55.6 | United States Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vennman, who is the former director for European |
| 1:00.5 | Affairs on the United States National Security Council. As many of you probably remember, |
| 1:05.4 | Colonel Vennman was one of the main people who discussed Donald Trump's quote-unquote perfect |
| 1:10.3 | phone call that led to his first impeachment. Colonel Vennman served in the Army for 21 years |
| 1:15.9 | and is a recipient of the Purple Heart. Since his retirement, he's become a New York Times best-selling |
| 1:21.0 | author for his memoir, Here, Right Matters, Available Wherever Fine Books are Sold, |
| 1:25.6 | and is a senior advisor for Votepads, a progressive veterans advocacy pack. Alex, welcome back. |
| 1:32.0 | Thanks for having me back on, Reed. It's been a while since we've had you on, so I want to go back |
| 1:38.2 | to more than a year ago before Russia invaded Ukraine. And you're kind enough to do a phone call |
| 1:46.0 | with a number of us. And something you said sticks with me every day as I watch the video and the |
| 1:52.0 | photos come out of Ukraine, which was, if Vladimir Putin can't win this war in three days, |
| 1:58.6 | he's going to kill as many people as he possibly can. He's going to make sure that Ukraine is |
| 2:03.6 | decimated that it is rubble, that if he can't have it, no one can. And those words, Alex, |
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