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Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

The Convergence of Cult Experience and Military Indoctrination with Former Army Captain Daniella Mestyanek Young

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8 • 684 Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2023

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Ever wonder about basic training in the military? What about how the BITE Model of Authoritarian Control applies to military personnel? With so many veterans who have returned to society, many do not seem to have been given the necessary psychological support to integrate and thrive. There is large amounts of active trauma as well as a high suicide rate. In 2022, Daniella Mestyanek Young acclaimed memoir Uncultured was published. It delved into being born into the Children of God sex cult, escaping, enlisting in officer’s training and her experiences as one of the first women to be in active combat as an Army Captain in the Intelligence Corps in Afghanistan. Young has since earned her Master’s in Industrial and Organizational Psychology from the Harvard Extension School and has been unpacking her life experiences in very important ways for people to understand. Join me for this fascinating and disturbing interview. Learn more about Steven Hassan and Freedom of Mind Resource Center. Visit freedomofmind.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of the influence continuum.

0:10.8

And I've been looking forward to a part two with my next guest who I interviewed when her

0:19.5

fabulous book uncultured first came out last year in

0:25.2

2022.

0:29.0

Daniela Mestinek Young was born and raised in the children of God cult, escaped it.

0:43.1

God involved with the military, became a captain in the intelligence corps of the army, was one of the first women who was involved with ground combat, and

0:52.6

served in Afghanistan, and came to a realization of trauma that she had left one cult and felt like she was in

1:06.1

another cult.

1:08.0

And when we first did a recording, when her book came out, we had some technical issues,

1:14.2

so it was audio only. So, Daniela, it's great to see you again. Congratulations on getting

1:20.6

your masters in industrial and organizational psychology from Harvard Extension School.

1:28.4

Kudos to you.

1:30.0

You're so smart and you're so talented and so articulate that I thought it would be

1:36.7

incredible to have another conversation with you about everything you've learned.

1:42.3

Now that your book came out, It was a fabulous success. You're

1:45.8

working on another book. So welcome, Daniela, to the influence continuum. Thank you so much, Steve.

1:53.7

I am so excited to be here. I have learned so much from you. And let me tell you that, like,

1:58.8

happy full circle thing, literally 20 years from when I left

2:03.0

the cult month to month was when Harvard conferred the degree. Graduation was on my birthday. Tom

2:10.1

Hanks was the speaker. It was so lovely. Some people have called my book a Forrest Gump story.

2:16.7

It's wonderful. And that's when we got to meet for the first time in person,

2:21.5

and I got to meet your husband as well.

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