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All Songs Considered

The Contenders, Vol. 23: Brandi Carlile, Blood Orange, Magdalena Bay, more

All Songs Considered

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Music

4.43.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

It’s a week of surprises as we update our running list of the year’s best music, with a mix of songs that refuse to be any one thing. Plus, singer Brandi Carlile drops a stunning, stadium-sized rock anthem.

NPR Music editor Sheldon Pearce joins host Robin Hilton.

Featured artists and songs:

1. Brandi Carlile: “Church & State,” from ‘Returning to Myself’
2. Hannah Frances: “The Space Between (feat. Daniel Rossen),” from ‘Nested in Tangles’
3. Kelly Moran: “Don’t Trust Mirrors,” from ‘Don’t Trust Mirrors’
4. Blood Orange: “The Last of England,” from ‘Essex Honey’
5. Magdalena Bay: “Second Sleep” (single)

Weekly reset: A family of bears rummage through a forest on an autumn afternoon.

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0:00.0

So I was talking with Paul McCartney.

0:02.0

Your close personal friend?

0:03.5

My close personal friend, Paul McCartney.

0:06.2

No, honestly, I've been thinking about a conversation I did have with him in an interview that we did years ago,

0:12.2

where we were talking about how there are so many Beatles songs that are made up of several different songs.

0:20.0

Right.

0:20.4

You know, like they change so many times and changed so completely that they're like a half a dozen different songs all stitched together.

0:27.6

You know, a day in the life, happiness is a warm gun.

0:30.6

Even McCartney's solo stuff, like band on the run, like a bunch of different songs all stitched together.

0:36.6

That was such a novel thing for a long

0:40.0

time. And I wanted to talk with them, like, just like, how does your brain go in so many

0:44.4

different directions in a single song? But I've been thinking about it because I hear that sort of

0:50.6

unpredictable musical adventure in so much music now. It is so common, particularly

0:57.4

in the stuff that we're going to play today. Yeah, you know, I definitely agree. I hear that

1:02.3

across the internet soundscapes. Yeah. People just sort of tinkering with all sorts of ideas,

1:09.8

maybe as a result of just like having a broader listening base

1:13.5

and appreciating more music,

1:16.2

there is a sort of different kind of thing happening

1:18.6

from the first artist I want to play

1:20.4

who keeps surprising us,

1:22.6

the decorated alt-country singer-songwriter Brandy Carlisle.

1:26.5

She's got a new album out.

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