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Well, Tom, we have worked together for, I don't know what, 20 years or more?

24 years. And I only just learned that you and I share a love of, well kind of almost

a hobby, but a love for recording sounds of our world.

Oh, God, yes.

I do this all the time with my iPhone just recording, whatever,

I'm just so in tune with whatever ambient sounds are going on and

I'm not only recording but just paying attention to it in everyday life.

Yeah. I mean things as monotonous as pile drivers.

And I think I know when you recorded this.

Was this in the old building when they tore all those buildings down outside?

No, those were, there were some good ones there, but this is right, not long after we moved into this building

and they tore a building down.

And the beauty of pile drivers is if you can get one that

ricochets off a couple of nearby buildings because then the ricocheting has this phase shifting effect that creates its own kind of minimalist repeating

rhythm.

That is just amazing.

Well I remember when the pile drivers were happening at the old building,

I think I've told this story before, I came into work and I could hear that

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