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The Lawfare Podcast

The Complicated Politics of Ukraine Aid

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🗓️ 11 December 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

The Senate last week failed to move forward the national security supplemental, which includes a large package of aid for Ukraine. The holdup? Migration at the southern border and Republican insistence that the administration and Democrats will have to swallow major policy changes in order to get the Ukraine aid through. Meanwhile, the mood in Kyiv is a little down. The counteroffensive did not go as planned, the U.S. aid situation and the European commitment to Ukraine is alarming, and domestic politics are returning after a hiatus during the first couple years of the war.  

To chew over the state of Ukraine and its support from the United States, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Eric Ciaramella of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a former CIA Ukraine analyst, and Molly Reynolds, Lawfare Senior Editor and Congressional Guru. They talked about the state of the Ukraine aid package in Congress, about whether a deal on the border is possible, about whether such a deal could pass the House, and about Ciaramella's recent trip to Kyiv and the mood there as Congress dithers.

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T's and sees apply. It's a losing proposition to just keep funding from the European side without the significant American

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contributions particularly on the military side. I'm Benjamin Wittis and

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this is the Law Fair Podcast December 11th, 2023. The Senate last week failed to move forward the National

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Security Supplemental, which includes a large package of aid for Ukraine.

1:35.0

The hold-up, migration at the southern border, and Republican insistence that the

1:41.0

administration and Democrats will have to swallow major policy changes in order to get the Ukraine

1:47.7

Aib through.

1:48.7

Meanwhile, the mood in Kyiv is a little down. The counter-offensive did not go as planned.

1:57.6

The U.S. aid situation and the European commitment to Ukraine is alarming and domestic politics are returning

2:07.8

after a hiatus during the first couple years of the war. To chew over the state of Ukraine and its support

2:17.1

from the United States, we got together Eric Charramella of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a former CIA Ukraine analyst,

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