The College Crisis: Heads of Dartmouth & Berkeley Debate the Decline of US Universities
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Podcast, LLC
4.2 • 7.1K Ratings
🗓️ 16 September 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
(0:00) Introducing Dartmouth President Sian Beilock and Berkeley Chancellor Rich Lyons
(1:14) The student loan burden
(8:03) DEI at US universities
(13:56) Administrative bloat
(16:12) Trump vs the Ivy League, viewpoint diversity
(21:56) Impact of K-12 education declining
(25:13) Will AI learning kill higher education?
(29:14) Rising unemployment among recent graduates
(31:35) Role of endowments
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| 0:00.0 | I was just sitting here contemplating about like how I'm going to pay back all my student loans. |
| 0:05.0 | I've applied over 300 jobs. |
| 0:07.0 | I don't have a job. |
| 0:08.0 | Student loan debt just reached an all-time high $1.48 trillion as in June of this year. |
| 0:14.0 | A historic drop in U.S. college enrollment. |
| 0:18.0 | We exist to educate, to teach you how to think, not what to think. |
| 0:23.6 | We'd better be thinking about big transitions or transformations if I can use the word |
| 0:28.6 | because there's a lot of new competition coming into our market. |
| 0:33.6 | Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Berkeley Chancellor Rich Lyons and Dartmouth President Cion Bylock. |
| 0:48.8 | Hello, sir. Thank you for joining us. |
| 0:51.3 | Hi. |
| 0:51.6 | Thank you so much. |
| 0:52.5 | I appreciate it. |
| 0:53.4 | Hi. |
| 0:53.9 | Nice to see you. Good to you. Hi. I see you. Thanks for joining us. Hi. Thank you so much. Hi. Nice to see. |
| 0:55.0 | Good to you. |
| 0:56.0 | Good to see you. |
| 0:57.0 | Nice to meet in person. |
| 0:58.0 | Nice to see you. |
| 0:59.0 | Yes. |
| 1:00.0 | Go bears. |
| 1:01.0 | Go bears. |
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