This is CBS I In The World. I'm John Batcher with Jonathan Pelson. His new book is Wireless Wars.

John is dangerous domination of 5G and how we're fighting back. We're in the stage where nobody

sees the wolf at the door. John, there's a scene in your book that doesn't stand up to reality.

Blacks bear a similar to it if this was a novel. The woman's name is Madame Sun Yifang.

Who is she and when does she walk into the room?

Yeah, so in fact Colin Golder who had stood in front of that room several many years later

is called in the Saudis. We're trying to get China to start buying the royal.

And one of the Saudi ministers really up at the top of the royal family called Lucent,

which was now at AT&T's division, equipment division was called and said, you know what?

You guys are doing this huge build out of the Saudi telecom network. You're building out all the equipment.

Why don't you get Huawei, this Chinese company to help you on the project.

So help them put a bid together and submit it to us.

It was charity. It was charity. It was just trying to, you know, grease the skins to get China to buy some more oil

and they said we'll buy some of your electronics.

So Colin goes off there. He's going to teach him how to put together a bid.

And they had someone show up who is didn't know what was going on. He said, look, this is not going to work.

I need someone who can work with me. So he came back the next day.

And there's a young woman well dressed and she introduces herself as Madame Sun, the chairwoman of Huawei.

With an interpreter. She, with an interpreter, she evidences that she doesn't have English.

She doesn't speak English and she kind of struggles with him.

And she, he tells her we're going to work together. We're going to put together a bid for this small project in Saudi Arabia.

And Colin told me by the end of the week, she was actually speaking some English more than he would have thought.

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