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Game changers, welcome home.

Welcome to the exponential view podcast. I'm Azim Azar, your host.

Now, if you're listening to this podcast, and I know you are listening to it,

it's almost certainly the case. I would say definitely the case that my guest today has

influenced your life. He was the boss of Apple's iPod Division, which created many versions

of that music device, and he's also known as the co-creator of the iPhone.

Before going on to found Nest, the company that created the learning thermostat,

which tackled the unsexy sector of home heating.

My home has two nests. Thank you very much. Now, those contributions are merely the start.

He has more than 300 patents to his name and has spent the last eight years helping

founders build products that matter to his firm, Future Shape.

And now, if that wasn't enough, he's published his first book, Build,

an unorthodox guide to making things worth making. Tell me for Dell, welcome to exponential view.

Azim, thanks for having me. It's great to be here.

I desperately needed you this morning. My home network is the network of someone who has been

working from home for several years. I have a big router. I've got a bunch of switches, redundant

cables and ducts, seven rate access points and dozens of devices on the network. And my network

went down for the first time in more than two years. And I've been on my hands and knees methodically

tracking down the problem than jury rigged a solution with old switches and power injectors,

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