I have a little bit of a theme with a couple of my interviews this week. Happy Monday. Welcome to another episode of the Chuck Toddcast. So today I'm interviewing McKay Coppins. It's a fascinating interview. He's a writer and reporter for The Atlantic. And he did the deepest of deep dives with incredible access

on the fight for control of the Murdoch Empire. James Murdoch in particular, the second son,

eldest son of Rupert Murdoch and whose the Murdoch children are in this big fight over whether to split up

the empire equally or to, in Rupert's case, he's afraid of his more liberal children taking a

piece of the Murdoch Empire. So there's an ideological aspect to all of these things.

Yes, if you're wondering, this is the story of succession in real life.

Well, certainly will feel familiar to you.

But it's an incredible piece that McKay did.

And we spend a good chunk of time, not just talking about his piece, but sort of understanding

sort of the ecosystem that Rupert Mardock created and what it is done in the

in at least the three places he's had the most success in acquiring media organizations

Australia, the UK and of course here in the United States.

But let's be honest. One of the reasons why there's so much distrust of media in general

is arguably due to the tactics that Rupert Murdoch has employed for some 30 years,

the weaponizing of journalism for partisan ends.

While he's not the first person to try and do it, I mean,

I've told you this. The 19th century was filled with this type of mindset when it comes to

journalism and media. But this modern era version of it and this attempt to sort of essentially

weaponize the information ecosystem that we're all living in today.

Arguably, the modern version of this began with the decision of what's happened with Fox News.

But you'll hear an interesting conversation about how, and I'm going to leave you with this

question before I go into the week in politics and what to expect this week.

...