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The Chopping Block: Tokenomics Reset — ICOs Rise, UNI Turns On Fees, MEV Goes to Court - Ep. 949

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, the crew dives into the shift from airdrops to ICOs as Monad, MegaETH, and Coinbase’s new sale format spark a rethink of how tokens should be distributed. They discuss ICO Beast’s hedging fiasco, why most airdrops fail to create real users, and whether fixed-price ICOs are a better path for long-term alignment. The gang also unpacks Uniswap’s major “unification,” the end of Labs vs. Foundation, and UNI finally becoming the protocol’s value-accrual asset. In the back half, they touch on the “low carb crusader” MEV trial, the hung jury, and the broader question of whether MEV games belong in criminal court at all. A concise, high-signal look at where tokenomics, distribution, and crypto’s legal boundaries are heading next. Show highlights 🔹 ICOs vs Airdrops, Again — Monad & MegaETH reignite the debate: should teams stop airdrop farming meta and lean fully into ICOs? 🔹 The ICOBeast Meltdown — Hedging tweets, revoked allocations, and “airdrop farmers are parasitic” spark a broader conversation about good vs. bad buyers. 🔹 Airdrops = Bad CAC — Most airdrops fail to create real users; the crew argues they’ve become toxic, easily gamed, and deliver almost no retention. 🔹 When Airdrops Actually Work — Only linear, DeFi-native “pay-for-performance” drops (Hyperliquid/Ethena style) reliably build product moats. 🔹 ICOs as the Cleaner Model — Fixed-price, IPO-style sales may be the better path for decentralization, long-term alignment, and selecting real holders. 🔹 Uniswap’s Great Unification — Labs + Foundation merge, fees turn on, 100M UNI burned; UNI becomes the single value-accruing asset at last. 🔹 Post-Lawfare Tokenomics — With Gensler-era pressure gone, protocols can finally ship real economic models without regulatory fear. 🔹 Simple Capital Structures Win — Tokens + companies with split incentives are a trap; unified value flow is the new meta. 🔹 MEV Showdown: Low Carb Crusader — Sandwiching the sandwichers leads to a hung jury; prosecutors want a retrial despite jurors in tears. 🔹 Is This Even Criminal? — The crew questions why murky MEV games get charged while blatant rug pulls go untouched. Hosts⁠ ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  ⁠Disclosures⁠ Links Hayden Adams “UNIfication Proposal”  🔗 https://gov.uniswap.org/t/unification-proposal/25881/1  Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:01 ICOBeast x MegaETH Allocation 10:40 Farming Airdrops vs. ICOs 21:00 Uniswap's Fee Switch and UNIfication 27:13 Unifying Shareholders: A New Meta 29:05 Legal & Regulatory Challenges 30:51 Celebrating Uniswap's Milestone 36:38 The MEV Bot Trial 48:36 Facing Accusers in Crypto Cases Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're putting in the hands of someone, but you're not putting in the hands of your users.

0:02.3

You're putting in the hands of somebody who's turning around and selling those tokens directly on the market, in which case, why don't you just sell the tokens of the market and skip the middleman, which is essentially what an ICO is. So I think the ICO is the right answer. Not a dividend. It's a tale of two pawn. Now, your losses are on someone else's balance. Generally speaking, air drops are kind of pointless anyways.

0:21.5

I'm into trading firms who are very involved. Your losses are on someone else's balance. Generally speaking, air drops are kind of pointless anyways.

0:21.5

Unimmedged trading firms who are very involved.

0:24.5

D5.E is the ultimate problem.

0:26.6

DFI protocols are the antidote to this problem.

0:30.3

Hello, everybody.

0:31.0

Welcome to the chopping block.

0:32.1

Every couple weeks before, us get together

0:33.3

and give the industry insider perspective

0:34.8

on the critical topics of the day.

0:36.8

So quick intro is Frisigat Tom, the defy maven and master of memes. Hello, everyone. Thanks, you got Robert, the cryptic connoisseur and czar of Superstate. Insert AI, Robert voice. Good evening. Then we got Tarun, the gig of brain and grand poobah at Gauntlet. Yo. And I am a C of the head hype man at Dragonfly. We're at least stage investors in

0:54.8

crypto, but I want to caveat that nothing we say here is investment advice, legal advice, or even

0:58.1

life advice. Please see chopping block at XYZ for more disclosures. So gentlemen, the market is

1:03.6

hurting once again. It seems like every time the NASDAQ sneezes, crypto catches a cold.

1:09.5

And once again, it's like a down day and

1:11.9

crypto is just getting walloped. So it seems like a lot of this has trickled into private

1:17.3

sales and pre-launches and optimism around token launches. And a lot of this is coming into now

1:23.4

the rise and re-rating of ICOs. So let's talk through this.

1:29.7

So Monad, in which I believe everybody on the show is an investor, Monad is doing an ICO.

1:35.2

And so originally they did anirdrop.

1:37.4

That air drop garnered some, I'd say both positive and negative sentiment from people in the

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