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🗓️ 3 May 2021
⏱️ 90 minutes
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Mike tells Sarah about an impending conflict, a dissident singer and America's first internet-enabled cancellation. Digressions include "Freedom Fries" and 1990s record company shenanigans. The co-hosts harmonize for the first time; Mike struggles not to call the Chicks by their former name.
Content note: This episode includes misogynistic, racist and fatphobic language.
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0:00.0 | You know what is important is if you under prepare, you just have to blame it on everyone and start a war. |
0:20.0 | Welcome to Irong about where we talk about who really gets cancelled and why you don't mess with Texas. |
0:28.0 | Oh, that's good. Thank you. Hi, Michael Hobbs. I'm Sarah Marshall. And if you'd like to support the show and hear cute bonus episodes, you can find us on patreon.com slash Irong about. |
0:38.0 | And you can find Sarah on why our dads and you can find Mike on maintenance phase. And also you can find us here right now, which is the most convenient possible thing. |
0:47.0 | You can continue finding us. And today we are talking about the chicks. |
0:53.0 | Yes, the artist formerly known as the Dixie chicks. I feel like is a good way to introduce them. Yes. |
0:59.0 | So, okay, a month and a half ago, I started researching an episode on cancel culture, one of the defining moral panics of our era. |
1:08.0 | Yes, your OJ Simpson trial and some senses. |
1:11.0 | Exactly. And I was like, okay, I'm going to look into the precursors. You know, I'll do like a little 15, 10 minute segment on political correctness. |
1:20.0 | And then I read like two books and then I found a bunch of these articles and I was like, oh, shit, like now this has to be its own episode. |
1:26.0 | And after we recorded the political correctness episode, I was like, okay, next week we're doing cancel culture. |
1:30.0 | I'm going to do like a little prelude 10, 15 minutes on the chicks and everything that happened in 2003. |
1:36.0 | I know you're 10 minutes. |
1:38.0 | I know. And then I read two biographies. I found a bunch of long form articles, a bunch of old interviews. And I was like, oh, there's a real story here. |
1:46.0 | So this has kind of become the two towers of a cancel culture trilogy. |
1:52.0 | Oh, that's delightful. And that makes sense because it seems like the one where we get to like cultural warfare after a lot of tension. |
2:04.0 | We're going to sort of reintroduce a lot of the same characters from political correctness. And we're going to set things up for next episode when I promise we finally get to actual cancel culture. |
2:14.0 | Well, such as it may be such as it may be. But I want us to keep in mind the institution of quote unquote cancellation as we go through this episode. |
2:23.0 | I think it's a really interesting way to look at this episode and what happened in 2003 because a lot of the articles about this massive explosion in 2003, they all mention this hasn't happened. |
2:34.0 | Like a celebrity cancellation like this hasn't happened since Shenato Conner in 1992. We didn't use to have this many of these. |
2:44.0 | Right? Like this is something that's so difficult to remember because celebrities have so many more outlets to make political statements now. |
2:51.0 | Yeah. So yeah, what do you remember about this? |
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