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Hi, I'm Dana Stevens, Slate's movie critic, here with a Slate's spoiler special podcast on The ChangeUp,

the new comedy, Body Switch comedy, starring Jason Bateman and Ryan Reynolds.

And with me to discuss The Change Up in the Slate Studio today is Pamela Paul.

Hello, Pamela.

Hi there.

So you are a writer and editor at The New York Times, and you also often freelance on topics

obliquely related to the subject of this movie.

Do you want to give your credentials or justification, or why did you want to see this pretty self-evidently awful movie with me and discuss it?

Well, this is the kind of movie that when the trailer passes by, my husband says, you can see that with your cousin.

My cousin lives in London, which basically is a sign of how much he didn't want to see it.

And frankly, I didn't particularly want to see it,

although I did very much want to do the spoiler with you afterwards. Because, well, I am a Jason

Bateman fan, I will say. But I do often write about issues related to the depiction of family and relationships in the media.

And work-life balance and the kind of things that this movie.

Allegedly tackles.

Yeah, hand-handedly gropes towards.

So the premise is that these two guys are buddies, right?

Predictably, Jason Bateman is the square middle class or maybe upper middle class lawyer at a white shoe law firm who has a wife and three beautiful children in a suburban house.

Ryan Reynolds is the screw-up.

He's an inspiring actor who can only get roles in light porno cinemax type movies.

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