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The Indicator from Planet Money

The cautionary tale of a recovering day trading addict

The Indicator from Planet Money

NPR

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4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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The story of a man who started buying and selling stocks as a hobby ... and got seriously addicted. We also speak with a neuroeconomist about the human brain on day trading.

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0:00.0

NPR. Chris Gava got interested in the stock market around 2010. I had some savings and I thought

0:18.7

there's no point in them being in, you know, saving his accounts because the interest was so bad.

0:24.3

Chris started with what he describes as a sensible investment strategy.

0:28.6

He bought shares in a range of large companies listed on the main British stock exchange.

0:33.5

But the deeper I got into it, you start going into forums and people start recommending stocks

0:39.3

and you see some of the returns that were happening. And then that kind of opened up another world.

0:48.0

It was a world of buying smaller, more volatile companies or using special trading contracts in ways that magnify your gains or losses.

0:57.7

Chris remembers investing in one company prospecting for oil.

1:01.3

News hit over a new discovery and in two days I'd made over 80,000 pounds and I thought, right,

1:08.9

you know, I can make some serious money here. 80,000 pounds is about 100,000 pounds, and I thought, right, you know, I can make some serious money here.

1:12.1

80,000 pounds is about 100,000 US dollars. And Chris saw what he was doing as investing,

1:18.7

an intellectual hobby on the side of his day job in digital media. What he didn't think was that

1:24.1

his trading could be gambling. This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Waylon Wong.

1:29.3

I'm Darian Woods.

1:30.6

Buying and selling quickly on the stock market is known as day trading.

1:34.1

And with the dawn of apps like Robin Hood and Weeble, winning or losing fortunes is easier

1:40.1

than ever.

1:41.1

Investors got a taste of just how easy yesterday when tech stocks plummeted off the back of new open-sourced AI from China.

1:49.1

So is day trading gambling? Today on the show, we hear Chris's story and we speak with a neuro-economist about the human brain on day trading.

2:03.6

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2:12.6

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