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🗓️ 12 January 2015
⏱️ 16 minutes
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Minds need to wander to reach full potential, and all that time on your phone might be getting in the way. We're here to help with a big project called Bored and Brilliant: The Lost Art of Spacing Out.
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0:00.0 | Hello friend, this is an episode of Note to Self, but from when we used to be called New Text City. |
0:07.0 | Same good content, just the old name. Enjoy. |
0:10.0 | Hello, please state your name after the tone and Google Voice will try to reach New Text City. |
0:17.0 | The relationship between a baby and a teddy bear or a baby and a binky or a baby that wants its mother's cradle when it's done with being held by a stranger. |
0:30.0 | That's the relationship between me and my phone. |
0:33.0 | I think of my phone like a power tool. Extremely useful, but dangerous if I'm not handling it properly. |
0:39.0 | If I don't pay close attention, I'll suddenly realize that I've lost an hour of time doing something totally mindless. |
0:46.0 | I think I treat my phone as sort of this like friend, like a best friend who has all of the best and worst qualities. |
0:54.0 | I'm sort of passive and let this friend take the reins. They'll run away with me and distract me and make my life crazy. |
1:09.0 | From WNYC, this is New Text City, where digital gets personal. I'm a new summer Odie. |
1:15.0 | You just heard listeners Jeremy Kelly, Jesse, Battleanna and Jack Smith all talking about how they feel about their phones. |
1:30.0 | And for many of us, that relationship has gotten so freaking emotional, intense, tangled, sometimes even torturous. |
1:39.0 | I've found that every moment I get on the subway standing in line just after I put the kids to bed. |
1:45.0 | What do I do? I fill every crack in my day. When I use to space out, I look at my phone, usually playing my game of choice, two dots on the slide. |
1:57.0 | And in fact, when I think about it, since 2008, when I first got a smartphone, I have never had to be bored. |
2:07.0 | Seven years later, I'm starting to find that disconcerting. Am I missing out on something by not being bored anymore? |
2:19.0 | The episode is about the answer I found and the challenge that it led me to. And it might lead you to it as well or someone you know who feels emotional about their phone. |
2:37.0 | To kick off my journey, I went and searched for someone who could tell me what is going on in our brains when we do nothing, when we are bored. And I found the perfect guy. |
2:50.0 | It's weird because basically I just studied it right from the beginning of my scientific career, really. |
2:54.0 | Oh, I love that sexy Scottish brogue. |
2:57.0 | Cognitive neuroscientist Dr. Jonathan Smallwood is one of the preeminent researchers on what's called mind wandering. |
3:04.0 | And he kindly fit in a phone call with me before making dinner at his home in the UK. |
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