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The Mismatch

The Case for a Pacers Surprise, OKC’s Path to the Finals, and What’s Next for the Knicks

The Mismatch

The Ringer

Sports

4.85.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

The Pacers beat the Knicks over the weekend to reach the Finals, where they will meet the Oklahoma City Thunder! Before discussing the Finals, Verno questions Jacoby regarding the next steps for the Knicks after a disappointing ending to their season. Is it time for Thibs to go? Does this core stay intact for another year? Next, the guys make the case for a Pacers upset and discuss what it'll take to pull that off, as well as their hope for a competitive series. Lastly, the guys discuss Devin Booker's involvement in the Suns' head coaching search and the weird send-off ‘Inside the NBA’ has gotten despite the fact that the show will return next season on ESPN. (0:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!(2:23) Why Did the Knicks Lose?(6:00) Would You Bring Back Coach Thibs?(11:50) How Should the Knicks Change their Roster?(18:52) The Pacers Path To The Finals [+530](27:27) Finals Preview: Oklahoma City Thunder [-750] Indiana Pacers [+530](50:50) Game 1: Pacers vs. Thunder [-9](55:17) Suns Nearing Decision to Hire Next Head Coach(56:37) Thoughts on ESPN's Inside The NBA Leave us a message on our Mismatch voicemail line! (323) 389-5091The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Visit creditkarma.com or download the app today. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and David JacobyProducers: Jessie Lopez and Tucker TashjianSocial: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Miss Match.

0:13.3

And joining me see that's every week from the Ringer.com is Dave Jocoby.

0:16.2

Jocobby.

0:17.4

Finals are here, Verno.

0:18.9

They're upon us.

0:21.8

That was not very exciting.

0:25.4

I just don't want to talk about the Knicks.

0:27.1

Why didn't you say,

0:28.7

the finals are here, Verno?

0:31.7

Because it's a Pacer's in the Thunder.

0:33.6

That's why.

0:33.9

Oh, we're not doing this big market media bias yet.

0:38.4

I don't care about that.

0:39.0

Yeah, you do.

0:40.0

I said on the show in the last episode that the Pacers were a better matchup for the Thunder than the Knicks.

0:44.7

I think it's an interesting finals.

0:47.4

I am excited to watch all four games of them.

0:49.8

Well, we'd be remiss if we did not mention that in the last episode that we recorded,

0:54.5

you had experienced a euphoria of game five at Madison Square Garden.

1:00.0

I was so late.

1:01.1

I was so hype.

1:02.8

You felt good about the opportunity in game six.

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