Welcome back my friends to the Epic Gardening podcast.

Today we're talking about plants that eat things that might not show up in the soil.

We're talking about carnivorous plants this week with Josh Brown, the owner of predatory

plants. Fantastic name for a production and online retail carnivorous plant nursery.

Josh, I've really been wanting to get into carnivorous stuff for a long time.

It's one of those things like it seems like it's always next up in line. I haven't really gone

super deep when I was a kid. I did kill a few venous fly traps. So I have I guess some experience,

but it's really not my forte. So I'm excited to have you on.

Right, I'm really happy to be here. Thanks for bringing me on.

Killing venous fly traps is one of the main rights of passage in collecting carnivorous plants.

So you already have made the first little foray that all of us have spent a lot of time doing.

Yeah, I'm glad I've taken that first crucial step, I guess.

So how did you get into this game?

It's kind of there's a bit of a legend around it actually.

It was my seventh grade science fair project. I had this book that was collecting dust on a shelf

that my mom had gotten me. It's a super obscure book about carnivorous plants that was published

in Australia back in the early 90s. It somehow had ended up in my possession and I was having a hard

time figuring out what I wanted to do for my science fair project. And I pulled that book down

and started getting ideas and ended up settling on testing whether carnivorous plants could be

convinced to be vegetarians. So I got 15 little sundews which are sticky plants that eat bugs,

little flies that land on the leaves. I took five of them in a control group and didn't feed them

anything. I took five of them and fed them like weekly fruit flies that I captured from our

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