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On the Media has a three-part series beginning this weekend on college campuses in the United States at the center of the nation's culture wars.

The series is called The Harvard Plan.

We'll hear some clips now from episode one and talk to two

guests. Ilya Merritt is the reporter on the story. Some of you will remember that Ilya was

co-host of the Trump Inc. podcast during Donald Trump's first term and the Will Be Wild podcast

about the events leading up to January 6th. Now he's with the Boston Globe and doing

this series for the globe and on the media. Also with us Hillary Burns, who covers higher ed

for the globe and is a key voice in the series. Her Boston Globe bio page says Hillary is

closely following how the culture wars are playing out on elite campuses.

Ilya, always good to talk.

And Hillary, thanks for coming on.

Welcome to WNYC.

Great to be here, Brian.

Elia, would you start with a little personal context as you do in episode one?

You took a year off from Daily Journalism to be what they call a Neimaniman journalism fellow at Harvard. Did your experience there

inspire this series? Yeah, although in kind of a roundabout way. So I, yeah, I went to do this

fellowship called the Neiman Fellowship. It's almost kind of too good to be true, really. You get to

be a college student again. I've been out of, you know, college for two plus decades.

But you get to go to campus and take classes and, you know, take some time out and build some

perspective and get to know some area experts and stuff like that. And for myself, having covered

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