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The Cambridge Five – From the Vault

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Education, News, History

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

As we continue ramping up for SpyCast 2.0, featuring a content overhaul and improved audio, we release a real gem on a perennial favorite of the SpyCast community. You literally couldn’t make this one up, it has everything you’d expect to see at Shakespeare’s Globe – betrayal, suspicion, ambition, political machinations, royal intrigue and flabbergasting chutzpah. Philby. Burgess. MacLean. Blunt. Cairncross. Spies who betrayed their country in the name of an ideal: communism. In the 1930s, five young Cambridge University students were recruited by Soviet intelligence to penetrate the British establishment. In the course of their espionage career, the Five did enormous damage to Western security. The gradual unravelling of the spy ring across the decades also led to mole-hunts and an ever widening ring of paranoia. It even put the “special relationship” between Britain and America under strain. While parts of their story inspired the pages of Cold War spy thrillers, back in 2009 British intelligence author Nigel West examined their motivations and activities, and revealed new evidence he unearthed in Soviet intelligence archives.

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Hi and welcome to Spycast, from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in Washington DC.

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I'm Dr. Andrew Hammond, the Museum's historian and curator.

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1:09.0

Our guest today is Nigel West. His true name is Rupert Allison.

1:13.0

One of the best known British historians and authors on intelligence books. He has written some 25 books.

1:20.0

He's a former conservative member of parliament, some 10 years, and he still regularly teaches both here and in Europe and even on cruises from time to time.

1:31.0

He's the European editor of the World Intelligence Review, based here in Washington and European editor of the International Journal of Intelligence and Counterintelligence.

1:42.0

He has been called the experts by some in terms of intelligence and many believe that his revelations are so precise, it is almost as if he worked for intelligence, but he doesn't.

1:57.0

So Nigel, welcome.

1:59.0

Thank you.

2:00.0

And I think what might be fascinating to our readers is the frequent references in Spy literature, certainly here at the museum, to the Cambridge Five.

2:13.0

You probably have know that case as well and have written as much as anyone. Could you for us give us an overview of summary and insight into the Cambridge Five?

2:26.0

These were five young men who at university at the height of the Depression in the early 1930s, made an ideological commitment to the Soviet Union.

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Their motivation is hard to understand now, but it is very clear that this was a deep long-term political commitment to the Soviet cause.

2:54.0

And what's fascinating is that they were all recruited before they ever really had access to classified information and having volunteered to the Soviets.

3:09.0

The NKVD at that time, the principal Soviet intelligence service, directed their careers.

3:17.0

And of the five, four of them became pretty significant members of, I guess you might call the secret establishment or the corridors of power in Whitehall.

3:31.0

Not enough to influence policy, but sufficient to betray political trends, policy decisions, intelligence operations, personalities, methodologies.

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