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The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Culture (Dapper Dan, Tim Blanks and Leila Fataar) | BoF VOICES

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2017

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Dapper Dan and Leila Fataar joined BoF editor-at-large Tim Blanks on the #BoFVOICES 2017 stage to discuss the power dynamics of appropriation and the legendary designer's historic partnership with Gucci.

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion and welcome to the B.OF podcast.

0:06.9

Cultural appropriation has become one of the most important hot button topics of 2017 in the fashion industry.

0:13.8

So we wanted to make sure we addressed it and we were really lucky to have Dapper Dan, the legendary designer from Harlem, Layla Fittar of Platform 13,

0:25.1

and Tim Blanks, B-O-F's own cultural expert offici-no, speak about this issue of cultural appropriation

0:32.5

and to understand where it crosses the line between cultural exchange and cultural appropriation. So here's Tim Blanks,

0:41.0

Dapper Dan, and Lela Fattar at Voices 2017. Voices is the most stimulating gathering of fashion

0:47.6

industry leaders on the planet. What makes Voices different is that we mix our industry with

0:53.0

fascinating people from other sectors

0:54.9

from the worlds of economics activism health and wellness medicine film philanthropy

1:00.3

technology media and so many more fashion doesn't live in a bubble and nor should it

1:05.9

this is one of the sessions from our 2017 gathering so if you like talk, please do save the date and look out for more information on

1:14.5

Businessof Fashion.com forward slash voices for all the details.

1:19.5

Just a quick note, this conversation was recorded live in front of an audience, so please

1:24.5

excuse any audio issues. I'm really glad to be talking about this issue with two experts because it is a very, very thorny one, I think.

1:34.3

But your story, Dan, you honestly couldn't make it up.

1:38.3

It's like a, I hope it's being made into a movie at some point.

1:42.3

Your relationship with the great fashion houses, how it's being made into a movie at some point. Your relationship with the great fashion

1:46.3

houses, how it's evolved, devolved and evolved again is incredible. I think right now the issue,

1:55.5

there are people who come back at the accusation of cultural appropriation and they say,

2:01.6

no, it's cultural exchange.

2:03.6

You're actually in a point where you are in a major cultural exchange with Gucci, aren't you?

2:09.6

Yes. In my community, we have a different lexicon that we use to describe what I do. Like you guys like, you know, brickillage or collage or appropriation is something that we

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