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Hey there, folks. It is Friday, December 12th. Closing arguments are underway in the trial of Brian Walsh.

And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J. Robs. Their part, we listened through Tipton, the defense already, and it's strange to say,

listening to him, we felt seen. He made some points that throughout, we were having the same feeling,

and he was doing it to say the prosecution has just given you a bunch of stuff and says,

do with it what you will. Exactly. And that's what we had been

complaining about as we watched the prosecution put on its case for the last two weeks. And I saw,

I thought where they were headed and then they never would bring it home. And I was asking myself,

as a juror, you're questioning, why am I hearing about this? What's the importance or significance

of this? How are you tying this to intentional premeditated murder? And I was confused, and I had

an idea of maybe where the prosecutors were headed, but they never told us. And I've never

seen that before. I understand they get the witness to take you down a path and you're following along.

And then they bring it home with either the follow-up question or just in the way they continue the line of question.

You understand what they're trying to prove.

I was confused for most of the prosecution's case.

And so Tipton, who from the very first word that came out of his mouth, an opening statement, you and I looked at each other and said, oh boy, he's going to be a good one. And we saw that because it's not just a matter of legal. There's a presentation and almost a colloquial way he talks that works, that some will tell you works with jurors. You pay attention. You sit up when he speaks. He is an amazing speaker, an orator.

Obviously, he knows what he's doing. But I would expect that from most trial attorneys.

And I just would say it is maybe unfair, but you do compare. And when he speaks, you listen.

When he tells a story, you pay attention.

That hasn't been the case for me with the prosecution. All right, folks, so we'll tell you where

we are right now. We are the, as we speak, closing arguments continue. Tippedon on the defense

side has finished. The prosecution, as we speak, we're recording this a little before lunchtime,

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