The Border's New Normal

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🗓️ 10 May 2023

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Activated during the Trump administration in 2020, Title 42 is a controversial border policy that makes it easier to quickly expel asylum seekers. Even though Biden campaigned on moving away from Trump’s anti-immigration stance,, his administration has also leaned on Title 42 to control the border. . Now that the policy is being lifted this week, pressure is on the Biden administration to answer the practical question: “What does a fair and humane asylum system look like in America?” Guest: Arelis Hernández, immigration reporter at the Washington Post If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	On May 11th, that is Thursday.
0:10.4	COVID-19 is no longer going to be a public health emergency in this country.
0:16.0	That means a lot of things.
0:17.5	The CDC is going to stop posting a national count of coronavirus cases.
0:21.8	Your insurance may not cover every nasal swab you get.
0:25.8	But it also means something else is coming to an end.
0:29.0	A pandemic error rule that upended immigration policy in this country.
0:33.9	Title 42.
0:38.2	Title 42 is a pretty jargonny way to describe this rule.
0:42.2	So I asked Arles Hernandez, who reports on immigration for the Washington Post,
0:46.7	to explain it a little more simply.
0:49.6	I mean, the term that we use usually is a public health order.
0:54.5	If that's any more helpful.
0:56.4	It's an ex-expulsion blanket expulsion order.
1:00.4	That sounds so much more harsh than just Title 42.
1:03.7	Oh, wow.
1:05.7	I don't know.
1:06.6	Jargon or harshness.
1:09.2	Yeah, take your pick.
1:10.2	Right, the effect is the same.
1:16.6	For the last three years, Title 42 has given the Biden administration and the Trump
1:21.6	administration before that, the ability to deny entry.
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