On this week's episode of the B&H Photography Podcast, we welcome editor, educator, and photographer Joan Liftin and Michelle Dunn Marsh, founder and publisher at Minor Matters. In the first half of the show, we speak with Liftin about her latest book, Water for Tears, and then we focus on Minor Matters and the unique business model this publishing house utilizes.

We also discuss the person who brought them together, the late photographer Charles Harbutt.  Liftin was married to Harbutt and was his collaborator, and Marsh has recently published a book of Harbutt's work and words, titled The Unconcerned Photographer.

With Liftin we relate the genesis of Water for Tears, which is a sort of photo memoir—images from travel and family and fleeting impressions that tie together a lifetime. We discuss editing, sequencing, collaboration, and the subtle difference between narrative and story. We also talk about editing Harbutt's work and, along with Marsh, about the making of The Unconcerned Photographer.

After a break, Marsh elaborates on the publishing model they employ at Minor Matters—a hybrid of crowdfunding, support membership, and a direct, organic connection between artist, publisher, and consumer. Have a look at their catalog, which presents work from established photographers and new voices in the medium. Join us for this compelling discussion.

Guests: Joan Liftin and Michelle Dunn Marsh

Photograph © Joan Liftin