The Book Club: Jonathan Jones
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The Spectator
4.3 • 826 Ratings
🗓️ 22 November 2023
⏱️ 56 minutes
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| 0:27.1 | Hello and welcome to The Spectator's Book Club podcast. I'm Sam Leith, the literary editor |
| 0:31.5 | of The Spectator. This week I'm joined by the art criticate historian Jonathan Jones, whose new book |
| 0:37.0 | is a sumptuously illustrated |
| 0:38.6 | and highly scholarly, earthly delights, a history of the Renaissance. Now Jonathan, you say in a |
| 0:44.7 | introduction that, you know, scholars don't like to talk about the Renaissance anymore. And it feels |
| 0:49.7 | like in some ways this is a bit of rehabilitation of the term. You say what gives the value of the Renaissance as an idea? |
| 0:57.2 | Well, I think without the Renaissance, there's a huge whole, not just in the story of art, |
| 1:02.6 | but in European history and the whole our understanding of Europe. |
| 1:06.8 | I mean, I did history at university, and I did a thing called early modern history. That's what you do. You do early modern history. Now, I was history at university and I did a thing called early modern history. |
| 1:11.3 | That's what you do. |
| 1:12.4 | You do early modern history. |
| 1:18.1 | Now, I was already at that age fascinated by this other thing called the Renaissance, |
| 1:31.0 | which I understood in a fairly naive way as a wonderful flowering of art and life, I suppose, in which people escaped from the gloom and doom of the Middle Ages into a new sunny spring, Botticelli's primavera. I'd been to Florence. That's where I got |
| 1:38.8 | all these ideas from. And this book really is trying to validate that same possibly, you know, old-fashioned Victorian idea of the Renaissance as a great liberating cultural moment. |
| 1:53.2 | And I think it did happen. That did happen. And it was, as I call it, a discovery of earthly delights. |
| 2:00.6 | The Swiss 19th century historian Jacob Burkart, who more or less invented the Renaissance, |
| 2:07.2 | the Italian Renaissance. |
| 2:08.2 | He wrote a book called The Civilization of the Renaissance in Italy. |
| 2:11.8 | And he talks about the discovery of the world and of man. |
| 2:15.2 | That's how he puts it, which obviously we would now say humanity rather than man. |
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