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🗓️ 27 September 2023
⏱️ 103 minutes
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Jeff Booth is the Author of The Price of Tomorrow & CEO/Chairman of Ego Death Capital. George Gammon is an investor, macroeconomics expert & host of The Rebel Capitalist Show. We discuss Bitcoin’s role in the world: its role as a hedge against the tradfi system, its disruptive potential & ability to reprice everything, & the challenges & consequences of a Bitcoin-dominated world.
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Jeff Booth, an entrepreneur, technologist, & author of the book ‘The Price of Tomorrow’, is a visionary in the Bitcoin field & a regular guest on this show. But, it’s been nearly 3 years since I interviewed the amazing George Gammon, renowned for his ‘The Rebel Capitalist Show’ podcast. This conversation was born out of a Twitter exchange, and it quickly became apparent that they share more common ground than many might have initially assumed.
Many believe that George is anti-Bitcoin, but that’s not the case. His stance on Bitcoin is pragmatic. George believes in the importance of owning Bitcoin for purchasing power outside of the traditional system, especially with the rise of central bank digital currencies. And yet, he emphasizes the importance of probabilities and trade-offs in discussions about Bitcoin and he doesn't necessarily see it as a guaranteed path to wealth.
Jeff's views align with George's on many fronts: they both expressed their belief in the potential of Bitcoin. The differences between the 2 guests lie in the perceived probabilities of hyperbitcoinisation. Jeff sees Bitcoin's potential to reprice the existing system if it remains decentralized and secure. In this event, one needs to imagine a world where value is priced in Bitcoin, not where Bitcoin is priced in dollars.
Jeff promotes a future where prices will fall forever against a fixed number of units of currency, a stark contrast to the current system. This will affect the appreciation of Bitcoin in different economic scenarios. While Bitcoin may currently be seen as a high-risk asset with the potential for significant returns, in a world where goods and services experience deflation, Bitcoin's appreciation may be less pronounced.
This show was another inspirational war cry for Bitcoin from two esteemed guests. Jeff couldn't imagine putting his time & money anywhere else due to the high returns he expects. George believes that even if Bitcoin doesn't become a global currency or faces challenges like fractional reserve usage and inflation, there is still massive value in its ability to enable transactions outside of the existing system. It highlights that everyone should consider the potential benefits of Bitcoin.
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Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/the-bitcoin-debate
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0:00.0 | Bitcoin gives us the ability to transact outside of the system. I think there is massive, massive value and Bitcoin is sensational and |
0:17.7 | Bitcoin will in my opinion overachieve. |
0:21.0 | Hello there happy happy Wednesday. |
0:23.0 | Hope you are all doing well. |
0:25.0 | I'm just getting ready. |
0:26.0 | It's a few days I'm going to be heading out to California. |
0:28.0 | We're going to be heading out to Pacific Bitcoin. |
0:31.0 | Got loads of interviews planned and we can't wait to get to the conference. |
0:33.7 | Corey and the Swan team, they absolutely smashed it last year. |
0:36.1 | It's a great conference. |
0:37.6 | So looking forward to seeing some of you out there, catching up, talking Bitcoin, and catching up |
0:42.0 | with some LA friends. |
0:43.5 | Also I think we got a real buffer game out there, |
0:45.3 | so I'll be finding somewhere to hide away and watch that game. |
0:48.2 | Hopefully some of you will come and watch it with me. |
0:50.4 | Anyway, welcome to the What Bitcoin did podcast, which is brought to you by the absolute legends at Iris Energy, |
0:55.6 | the largest NASDAQ listed Bitcoin miner using 100% renewable energy. |
0:59.7 | I'm your host, Peter McCormack, and today I have perhaps my favorite show of the year. |
1:04.0 | We've got Jeff Booth and George Gaman on the show to discuss and debate Bitcoin. |
1:08.3 | Now these two have gone back and forth a bit on Twitter. |
1:10.5 | Actually it started quite a while back and I kind of threw myself into the conversation and said, |
1:16.4 | hey guys, let's do this, let's go on the podcast, let's talk this through. And they both agreed, but it's taking some time to get together and |
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