The Billions of Dollars Funding the Taliban and Helping Hamas (with Mike Baker)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.8 • 607 Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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In this episode of Change Agents, an IRONCLAD original, Andy Stumpf interviews Mike Baker about billions of American dollars that are now helping to find the Taliban in Afghanistan, as well as how terrorist organizations like Hamas are actually funded. Mike Baker spent nearly 20 years as a CIA covert field operations officer, who took part in counterterrorism, counternarcotics, and counterinsurgency operations across the globe. He is the CEO of Portman Square Group, a global investigations and strategic communications company and is the host of the show Black Files Declassified on the Discovery Channel and The President’s Daily Brief podcast. He is the author of the book COMPANY RULES: Or Everything I Know About Business I Learned from the CIA SPONSOR: Change Agents is presented by Montana Knife Company. Use CODE "CHANGEAGENTS10" for 10% off your first order at https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Subscribe to the podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/change-agents-with-andy-stumpf/id1677415740 Shop IRONCLAD Apparel: https://shop.thisisironclad.com/ Change Agents is an IRONCLAD original. Visit https://www.thisisironclad.com to learn more. Be sure to subscribe to @thisisironclad on YouTube and major social platforms. Follow us on Social - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisisironclad Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThisIsIRONCLAD Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thisisironclad TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thisisironclad Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://thisisironclad.com/newsletter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	But you're right, the $8 billion to the Taliban is a, it's almost as if we're, it's not extortion.
0:09.0	What is it's bribery?
0:10.1	We're almost like saying, here, take this and don't, don't do anything, right?
0:16.2	Don't cause us any trouble.
0:19.3	How can I help?
0:20.5	How can I be useful in ending needless suffering? Do not be afraid of work that has no end.
0:26.6	We have to organize a social movement.
0:31.6	We have an opportunity to lead by example versus just talking, hot air.
0:39.3	I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow, eventually you could change.
0:44.3	The people are the ones that can make the change.
0:51.3	Welcome back everybody to Change Agents, an ironclad original, proudly presented by our friends at Montana Knife Company.
1:01.4	Today's episode is timely for a few reasons.
1:04.7	One, this situation in Israel.
1:07.5	Originally planned to be talking about the Taliban, Afghanistan, the withdrawal, what's left behind,
1:14.3	and the potential for Taliban to be taking Western money and what they're doing with it.
1:19.3	I say it's timely because there's an unavoidable tie-in between our departure, both of personnel,
1:30.3	and the infrastructure left behind, and potentially what is happening in Israel currently.
1:33.3	My guest today is Mike Baker.
1:36.3	Mike spent nearly 20 years as a CIA covert field operations officer.
1:41.3	He took part in counterterrorism operations, counter-narcotic operations,
1:46.5	counter-insurgency operations, all of the isms all around the globe. He currently is the CEO of the
1:53.7	Portman Square Group, a global investigative and strategic communications company, and is the host of
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