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The biggest shift yet in U.S. vaccine policy

Post Reports

The Washington Post

Daily News, Politics, News

4.45.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

The U.S. is in the midst of its biggest overhaul yet to childhood vaccinations, and it is already impacting how families are thinking about immunizing their children. 

President Donald Trump recently directed a review of the longstanding childhood vaccine schedule. And just last week, an influential vaccine panel recommended dropping the universal birth dose of the hepatitis B vaccine for newborns, even though medical associations said they lacked evidence and data to support the change

Today on “Post Reports,” national health reporter Lena Sun breaks down the implications of dropping the hepatitis B vaccine at birth, and how, if the change is approved by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, it could affect children’s health nationwide. Then, host Martine Powers speaks with Dr. Nola Jean Ernest about how a growing skepticism toward vaccines is affecting her practice and how she is managing to make the case to patients in the Wiregrass region of Alabama that vaccines matter.

Today’s show was produced by Elana Gordon. It was edited by Peter Bresnan and mixed by Sam Bair. Thanks to editor Fenit Nirappil.  

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0:00.0

Nola Jean Ernest is a pediatrician working in the wiregrass region of Alabama.

0:07.0

Which is the southeast corner of Alabama, where I like to say we don't have interstates and we don't have children's hospitals.

0:14.0

So the pediatricians in this area really are the frontline experts in kids' health for all of the children.

0:23.6

In her work, Dr. Ernest encounters a lot of skepticism around childhood vaccines,

0:31.6

and she sees it as her job to convince her patients that vaccines are safe and effective. But recently, even in the

0:40.2

last week, she has noticed a change in how some parents are thinking about the vaccine for hepatitis

0:46.0

B, which for decades has been recommended for all newborns in the U.S. In the past, declining the

0:53.5

hepatitis dose vaccine at birth was pretty rare.

0:58.2

We would come up against it one or two times a year.

1:01.7

In the last six months, it has become increasingly common.

1:06.1

But this week, all of the newborns that I have seen this week in my clinic declined the birthdose of hepatitis B.

1:16.1

It's no secret that Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is on a mission to reshape

1:22.8

childhood immunization in the U.S. And so far, he's been pretty successful.

1:28.9

He's directed the CDC to publish language suggesting that there might be a link between

1:33.6

vaccines and autism.

1:35.9

He's replaced every member of the vaccine advisory panel with his own picks.

1:41.2

Now, that panel has recommended dropping the universal birth dose of the hepatitis B vaccine

1:47.7

for newborns.

1:51.2

Health reporter Lena Sun says that new leadership at the CDC are expected to approve that change

1:57.7

and that it could have major impacts on patients and doctors around the country.

2:03.0

This will be a substantial change to the childhood immunization schedule, maybe the most substantial

2:09.2

in decades. And it would just be the opening salvo for Robert F. Kennedy, who has always wanted to upend the childhood vaccination schedule

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