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The Big Tech Con w/ Cory Doctorow

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Politics, Society & Culture, News

4.9 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2024

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Every wonder why it feels like almost every single tech product you use is actively trying to screw you? Why it is that your printer requires you to subscribe to ink cartridges that, ounce for ounce, cost more than gold? Why you can’t read websites anymore because of all the moving, deceptive advertisements clogging up the screen? Why you’re paying substantially more for an entire suite of buggy streaming services than your parents ever were for cable TV? Why your BlueTooth enabled electric toothbrush keeps breaking? Why airplanes are falling apart mid-flight?

Well, it might not seem like it at first glance, but all of these phenomena are related. They have a single cause: deregulation. Specifically, deregulation driven by big tech monopolies that have found all sorts of creative and coercive ways to use the legal system to screw over not just their customers, but increasingly their employees, clients, vendors, advertisers—basically everybody but a handful of shareholders and C-suite decision-makers who are growing filthy rich off of our impoverishment and immiseration.

In this conversation, we’re talking big tech—how we got where we are and how we can fix things—with Cory Doctorow. Cory is an activist, journalist, and author. His two latest books are the science fiction novel The Bezzle and the nonfiction book, which we’ill be talking about today, The Internet Con: How to Seize the Means of Computation, published by Verso.

In this conversation we explore the history of trusts and anti-trust laws originating in the late 1800s, and we discuss how deregulation, copyright, digital locks, IP law, and monopoly-friendly legislation have all led to a process of enclosure in multiple tech industries—from the internet to airplanes—resulting in a landscape fully devoid of anything resembling the promise of technology that has been whispered into ours ears since the dawn of the digital age.

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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, A little cartridge that you get your ink on from HP or whoever, it's got a system on a chip in it that is like a full-fledged printer.

0:28.0

It's got like a network stack in it. It's running Linux.

0:31.0

You know, like it is a whole ass computer and so that software is totally

0:34.4

copyrightable and so what that means is that if HP wants to lock you out of your

0:40.3

printer and make sure that you have to use your printer in the way that benefits

0:44.0

them and not you, they can use these software locks and no one is allowed to unlock the locks

0:49.6

except them. And so now you have these travesties like HP's new printers you don't even own you have to

0:55.4

rent them every month you have to give them a credit card number because it's not your

0:59.4

printer it's theirs and if your printer is not reachable over the internet for a certain number of days, they fine you and

1:05.2

extract charges from your credit card. They also are data mining the documents you print to figure

1:11.2

out how to target advertising to you and get other business

1:14.3

intelligence about you and you have to subscribe to ink and so you have to pay for the

1:19.4

ink in advance and if you don't print enough pages you still pay for the ink and you can't use third-party ink.

1:23.0

And you can't use third-party ink cartridges.

1:25.0

Right? So this is like the most abusive possible version of a printer.

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feels like almost every single tech product you use is actively trying to

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