The Best Conversation About History You’ve Ever Heard - Dominic Sandbrook

TRIGGERnometry

Konstantin Kisin & Francis Foster

News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.6 • 2.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Dominic Sandbrook is a British historian, author, and broadcaster known for his vivid storytelling and deep dives into modern British history. He co-hosts The Rest is History podcast with Tom Holland. Triggernometry is proudly independent. Thanks to the sponsors below for making that possible: - Superpower: Test 100+ biomarkers. Detect early signs of 1,000+ conditions. Click https://superpower.com - Sponsor: Qualia Senolytic. Go to https://Qualialife.com/TRIG for up to 50% off and use code TRIG at checkout for an additional 15% off - Augusta Precious Metals: Protect Your Retirement with Physical Gold. Rated #1. Click to learn more: https://bit.ly/triggergold - SPONSOR: Masa Chips! https://masachips.com/trigger and use code TRIGGER for 25% off your first order. Join our exclusive TRIGGERnometry community on Substack! https://triggernometry.substack.com/ OR Support TRIGGERnometry Here: Bitcoin: bc1qm6vvhduc6s3rvy8u76sllmrfpynfv94qw8p8d5 Shop Merch here - https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/shop/ Advertise on TRIGGERnometry: [email protected] Find TRIGGERnometry on Social Media: https://twitter.com/triggerpod https://www.facebook.com/triggerpod/ https://www.instagram.com/triggerpod/ About TRIGGERnometry: Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians. 00:00 Introduction 07:34 We Have Lost A Sense Of The Tragic 16:59 How People Talk About The British Empire 31:20 We All Have Different Views On History Changing Figures 39:48 Talking About People And Events In History As Being Evil 57:22 Hitler Being Seen As The Most Evil Person That Ever Lived 01:06:17 Does The State Of The Country Concern You? 01:12:40 Human Nature Is What It Is 01:19:44 What's The One Thing We're Not Talking About That We Really Should Be? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	The mood music about history, which I agree in the last, let's say 15 years, has been intensely moralistic.
0:11.3	Is that wrong? Like, should we not be trying to learn the moral lessons from the past?
0:16.5	The biggest killers were utopian idealists. They were people who believed in a better world.
0:21.5	Hitler undoubtedly, you know, it sounds weird to say it, but he's an idealist. Stalin is obviously
0:25.3	an idealist. Mao is an idealist. They think they are going to make a better world. We now have a
0:31.8	slightly sanitised and a self-deluding idealistic view of human nature and of what we're capable of.
0:40.8	They've been completely insulated from the beast and other people and in themselves.
0:45.5	Knowledge of the beast is so important.
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1:38.7	Dominic Sambra, welcome to Trigonometry.
1:40.5	Thank you for having me. It's a great privilege. It's an honor to be here.
1:42.8	It's an honor for us to have you. You're, of course, part of the hugely successful Larestis History Podcast with our former and future guest, Tom Holland. And history has always been a fascination of ours. Our audience love our history episodes. It's great to have you here. The thing we wanted to talk about with you is, I think, given the current political climate and everything else has been going on,
2:04.5	a lot of people are kind of aware of the fact that the way history has been taught for quite some time now
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