And me? I still believe in podcasts. But now at least I know it's not some place you

can look for because it's not where you go. It's how you feel for a moment in your life

when you're part of something. And if you find that moment, it lasts forever. Like two

hours, 40 minutes, 320 something in that range.

What was that last thing you said? I made a joke about our podcast being long. That's

what I was trying to do. I wanted to sub in podcasts for paradise that felt clean, but

the line starts with it. Emily was right. You do do a good Leonardo DiCaprio circa 2000.

Yeah. I knew she was right. It's baby Leo trying to sound serious, which I would argue

is his entire career, but we can get to that later.

Well, but when does he shift from baby to big boy? Because I feel like the hit on everyone,

the hit on gangs in New York was that he's still baby. He's trying to be big boy, but he's

still baby. It was at the, you know, the aviator in the departed or those just kind of using

his baby this correctly. David, your question is when does it take? When do people finally accept it?

Is that I think in by inception of shutter island it has taken and he's and he's a bit different.

Yes. I'm going to say I'm in the extreme minority that says he's still baby. Like he's still baby.

He's still baby. Well, I think his best performance has still come from him leaning into baby. I think

departed for me is the first time. I think he's I think he's great in the aviator, but it works

because that role is partially baby. And I think I think departed it. It's used. Right. I think

departed is the time where it kind of starts to cross over because that guy is trying so hard

in the movie to prove that he's not baby. Right. That movie begins with him being summoned into

an office where Walberg and Sheena are like, so you're a baby, right? You're a baby, right? And

he's like, no, I'm not. I hear your fucking baby. You're I'm telling this sheet. Yeah.

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