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Deadline: White House

"The battle to salvage what remains of the rule of law in America"

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

News, Versant, Ms Now, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace interviews a federal judge, a Reagan appointee with decades of experience overseeing the criminal cases of mobsters and lawmakers alike, retiring from the bench so that he can sound the alarms and take a stand against Donald Trump's assault on the rule of law.

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone.

0:08.9

Happy Monday.

0:09.6

It's 4 o'clock in New York.

0:10.7

In the battle to salvage whatever it is that remains of the rule of law in America, it just may go down as one of those shots heard around the world.

0:18.5

And the news wasn't extraordinary because of what he was

0:21.7

doing and retiring. It is how he did it. After 40 years on the bench, a federal judge appointed by

0:28.1

Ronald Reagan, with decades of experience overseeing criminal cases of mobsters and lawmakers alike,

0:34.4

is retiring from the bench so that he can sound the alarm and take a stand

0:39.2

against Donald Trump's assault on the rule of law in America.

0:42.9

Former federal judge Mark L. Wolf writes this in the Atlantic over the weekend, quote,

0:47.3

I no longer can bear to be restrained by what judges can say publicly or do outside the courtroom. President Donald Trump is using

0:56.5

the law for partisan purposes, targeting his adversaries while sparing his friends and donors

1:02.0

from investigation, prosecution, and possible punishment. This is contrary to everything that I have

1:09.0

stood for my more than 50 years in the Department of Justice

1:12.0

and on the bench. The White House's assault on the rule of law is so deeply disturbing to me

1:17.8

that I feel compelled to speak out. Silence for me is now intolerable. Judge Wolfe's point of no

1:26.1

return moment comes when Donald Trump's efforts and campaign to destroy the rule of law is coming at us fast and furiously with disturbing new developments every single day.

1:37.0

Today there's brand new reporting on the Trump administration testing, a favorite conspiracy theory of Donald Trump's in a court of law.

1:45.6

New York Times reporting this,

1:51.0

quote, far right influencers have been hinting in recent weeks that they have finally found a venue in Miami and a federal prosecutor in Jason A. Redding Cignones to pursue long promised charges

1:58.2

of a quote unquote grand conspiracy against Donald Trump's

2:02.4

adversaries. Their theory of the case, still unsupported by the evidence, that a cabal of

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