The Basement: Rizwan Virk | The Simulation Hypothesis, Quantum Physics & Mysticism

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Society & Culture, Documentary, Science Fiction, Science, Life Sciences, Fiction

4.8 • 9.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2026

⏱️ 177 minutes

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Rizwan Virk built games downloaded millions of times, invested early in Discord, and taught at MIT. Then he put on a VR headset in Sausalito and nearly fell over reaching for a table that didn't exist. That five-second moment sent him down a rabbit hole connecting quantum physics, Eastern mysticism, and video game design — and he's not sure he's found the bottom yet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:29.9	Today we're sitting down with Rizwan Verk,
0:32.2	MIT computer scientist, Stanford MBA,
0:35.0	video game pioneer,
0:36.3	and one of the early investors in Discord.
0:38.2	Early investor in Discord, huh?
0:40.6	So he's the reason my guppy's rubber tram, screaming at strangers in Fortnite.
0:45.9	I have questions for this man.
0:48.5	His book, The Simulation Hypothesis, is now out in a fully revised second edition.
0:53.2	It argues that quantum physics, ancient
0:56.1	eastern mysticism, and the architecture of video games are all pointing at the same unsettling
1:01.5	truth, that what we call reality may not be reality at all.
1:05.5	Hang on, hang on, hang on, I say reality isn't real and people call me crazy. This guy says it and gets a book deal.
1:13.2	Oh, well, he lays out a better case than you do.
1:15.8	Does he say how to lizard people run the simulation?
1:18.7	No.
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