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The Daily

The Ballad of ‘Deepfake Drake’

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2023

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

This month, an anonymous producer jolted the music industry by using artificial intelligence to impersonate the singers Drake and the Weeknd, creating a fake track, “Heart on My Sleeve,” that quickly went viral. Joe Coscarelli, a culture reporter for The Times, talks about how the song’s rise and fall could presage widespread changes in the way music is made. Guest: Joe Coscarelli, a culture correspondent for The New York Times.

Transcript

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From The New York Times, I'm Sabrina Tavernisi and this is The Daily.

0:07.0

When an anonymous music producer used artificial intelligence to impersonate Drake earlier this month,

0:19.0

it jolted the music industry.

0:22.0

Today, my colleague Joe Coscarelli on the rise and fall of one AI song and what it means for the future of music.

0:42.0

It's Friday, April 28th.

0:46.0

Joe, welcome to the show.

0:53.0

Hey, thanks for having me.

0:55.0

So, you are a music reporter.

0:57.0

That's the world you cover.

0:59.0

But this is an episode about artificial intelligence.

1:03.0

An artificial intelligence AI is something we've covered a lot on the show.

1:07.0

But never when it comes to music.

1:12.0

Tell me how these two things came together for you in your recent reporting.

1:17.0

There's obviously been a lot of buzz about AI in recent months, all across all my social media,

1:24.0

television, cover of our newspaper, chatbots and image generators.

1:29.0

I'm thinking of chat GPT.

1:31.0

Everyone's saying they're the next big thing.

1:33.0

What do they mean for various industries?

1:36.0

In my world, the people who make popular music, fans of popular music and the people who build businesses around pop music.

1:44.0

AI hadn't really been a thing.

1:47.0

There had been some experiments with AI on the fringes of the music business over the years,

1:51.0

but they've always seemed a little bit academic or niche.

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