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The Authority: Betrayal

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4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2019

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to The Authority, Slate’s deep dive into the world(s) of HBO’s His Dark Materials. Each week, Slate’s scholars of experimental theology Dan Kois and Laura Miller discuss the new HBO series and Philip Pullman’s original trilogy. This week, they’re discussing the season finale, “Betrayal.” Plus, a closer look at New Line’s 2007 attempt to film The Golden Compass with Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig. Why did that movie fail so badly? Join the conversation: Email: asktheauthority@slate.com Dan Kois on Twitter: @dankois Laura Miller on Twitter: @magiciansbook Podcast production by Phil Surkis, with engineering assistance from Melissa Kaplan and Asha Saluja. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

For centuries, they have been tried to keep us where they want us.

0:07.0

Why do demons disappear when you die?

0:11.0

And yet humans leave these nasty skeletons behind.

0:17.0

With our children back.

0:19.0

Welcome to the Authority, Slate's His Dark Materials Podcast.

0:22.8

It's season one, episode 8, the season finale, Betrayal.

0:27.9

We're Slate's resident scholars of experimental theology.

0:30.5

I'm Dan Coise and my demon is a prairie vole named Gilda.

0:34.0

I'm Laura Miller and my demon is a sea otter named Saki.

0:38.0

So in episode 8, Betrayal, Azrael has a late night conversation with Lira about dust and fatherhood, then steals away with

0:44.7

Roger. Up on a high mountaintop he cuts away Roger's demon and uses the energy that

0:49.3

produces to open a doorway to another world, the city in the sky.

0:53.2

A very, very rude thing for a dad to do

0:55.2

with his daughter's best friend, in my opinion.

0:57.4

Meanwhile, Mrs. Coulter claims she finally

0:59.7

wants to be Lyra's mother, but that doesn't stop her from shooting at Lyra's other best friend York from a blip.

1:05.8

Also rude behavior for her parents. You know what? Philip Larkin said it, the Fresh Prince said it.

1:11.1

Props to Roger for saying it straight out.

1:13.6

You know what I think?

1:15.6

Apparently, more trouble than the worst.

1:17.6

This season finale covers the last 30 pages of the Golden Compass.

1:21.2

The crucial, enormous twist and turning point of this story, the

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