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The New Yorker Radio Hour

The Attack on Black History, with Nikole Hannah-Jones and Jelani Cobb

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

News, David, Books, Arts, Storytelling, Wnyc, New, Remnick, News Commentary, Yorker, Politics

4.25.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Why are so many states restricting what schools can teach about racism? Two leading journalist-historians discuss the efforts to ban or rewrite the teaching of Black history.

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0:00.0

This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC studios and the New Yorker.

0:10.0

Welcome to the New Yorker Radio Hour, I'm David Remnick.

0:13.2

In 1963, James Baldwin gave a speech to a group of teachers,

0:17.9

encouraging them to grapple more honestly

0:21.0

with the realities of American history.

0:24.3

Baldwin said this, you must understand that in the attempt to correct so many generations

0:29.6

of bad faith and cruelty, when it is operating not only in the classroom,

0:35.1

but in society, you'll meet the most fantastic,

0:38.5

the most brutal, and the most determined resistance.

0:41.6

There is no point in pretending that this won't happen.

0:44.7

60 years after Baldwin's speech,

0:50.0

it is still happening, an escalating backlash

0:53.0

against the teaching of black history.

0:55.2

Dozens of states have proposed measures

0:57.7

to restrict teaching the history of race and racism.

1:01.5

In Florida, new state history standards specify for example that

1:05.6

enslaved people might have benefited from slavery.

1:10.6

Florida schools must now teach students about the quote benefit of slavery when

1:15.5

teaching black history. The controversial new education standard passed by the

1:19.5

State Board of Education earlier this week. This follows Governor DeSantis's so-called of education

1:25.0

standards there in Florida.

1:30.0

At the same time, book bands are in Florida. At the same time, book bands are at an astronomical level.

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