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Welcome to the Atlantic interview. I'm Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic,

and with me is former Atlantic intern and current chairman and CEO of HBO, Richard Kleppler.

Intern, is that fair?

No, no, no, no, I was an intern, but I was wrong, wrong, wrong. I had my own very tiny consultancy. How many employees

did this consultancy? This consultancy had one employee. That was me. But I called it RLP International.

International because you had a passport. I thought big.

Richard, so we're going to do a lot of stuff here in the next little period.

But let's start with something that I need to just do.

It's 10 years since Sopranos went off the air.

What happened at the last scene?

Just tell us now.

No, you have inside.

Obviously, you have inside now.

Look, I'll tell you what I said to David Chase, but I can only tell you...

By the way, to our millennial listeners, The Sopranos, was a very popular television show on the HBO network.

It worked for us.

So I thought what the Dan Amal really was saying was pretty simple. You reap what you sow, and his

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