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The Atlantic Interview

The Atlantic Interview: Barack Obama on Disinformation and The Future of Democracy

The Atlantic Interview

The Atlantic Monthly Group, LLC

Society & Culture, Politics, News

4.4 • 977 Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2022

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Disinformation is the story of our age. We see it used as a tactic of war and to further embolden autocrats.. The very tools that once helped pro-democracy movements are now being used to disseminate falsehoods—misleading the public and threatening the strength of democracies around the globe.  Former President Barack Obama and editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg talk about disinformation—how to define it, how to combat it, why it threatens democratic stability around the world, and how future generations can uphold truth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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For all the times we didn't live up to our ideals, for all the times that we've made

0:36.1

mistakes on the international stage.

0:37.9

If we get democracy right, democracy is stronger around the globe.

0:44.9

And when we don't get it right or we don't look like we care about it, others fill that

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get.

0:53.1

This is Radio Atlantic.

0:56.3

I'm Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic. I recently interviewed President Barack Obama to talk about disinformation, what it is, how it threatens

1:21.1

our democracy here in America and in countries around the world, and how it can be

1:25.4

countered. The very tools that helped pro-democracy

1:28.8

movements around the world and open the public square to new and interesting voices are now

1:33.4

used to disseminate disinformation, undermining our democratic institutions. Nowhere is the assault on

1:39.7

democracy more evident at this moment than in Ukraine, where Vladimir Putin is attempting to

1:43.9

demolish

1:44.3

Ukraine's democracy and Ukraine itself. Throughout this aggression, we've witnessed the wholesale

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