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The Atheist Experience 29.20 with The Cross Examiner and Dave Farina @ProfessorDaveExplains 2025-05-18

The Atheist Experience

The Atheist Community of Austin

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🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 98 minutes

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(00:00:00) The Atheist Experience 29.20 with The Cross Examiner and Dave Farina @ProfessorDaveExplains 2025-05-18
(00:10:31) Neil-WA - Deconversion Responsibilities
(00:19:26) Andrew in CA- AI Is Conduit To Source
(00:25:18) Jason-CA - God Existing Outside Space And Time
(00:58:44) Mike-SC - Sharia Law Or Christian Nationalism?
(01:27:48) Steve-NE - Star Being Slowed Down By Artificial Force

In today’s episode of the Atheist Experience, The Cross Examiner and Dave Farina, discuss topics of AI, deconversion, deceleration of stars, and church and state separation. 

Andrew in CA has a conduit of contact with AI and the source of all existence. How do you know this is the source of existence? What reason is there  to treat AI as the god of honest truth?

Jason in CA says that matter, space and time had to come to being at one point and there can't be an infinite regression. What evidence do you have that we didn't see an infinity before the moment of creation and that there is a creation to begin with? If god exists outside of time, how did the realm where god existed change when the universe was created? What evidence do you have that this realm or state of being even exists? Every time we see consciousness, we see a physical entity, the brain. Why would we believe there is a consciousness outside the universe? We do not fully understand the origin of the universe or consciousness. We just don’t have evidence for the claim of a deity that fills in these lack of knowledge gaps. 

Neal in WA grew up as a Mormon and has been wondering if as an atheist he should be doing more to help deconvert people. If you could help make a different path available to people, you may help them from taking on beliefs that are harmful. There is no reason to feel guilty for beliefs that you were indoctrinated to have when on this long journey of deconversion. You are accountable for your own actions, not the beliefs of others. 

Mike in SC wants to know if between Sharia Law or Christian Nationalism, what is more dangerous for atheists. Which of these two movements do you think is dismantling The Constitution? Anybody can be corrupted by financial, political, or religious power. The answer to the question depends on where you live and who is in power. Using religious ideas to take away freedom and change federal law is where the danger is. Kennedy v. Bremerton School District shows how the Lemon Test, that determines if there has been violations of the Establishment Clause, has been abandoned by the Supreme Court. If people are being locked up simply for praying, we have an objection to that. Anytime you see a story where this is happening, go read the actual case and original source to learn what really happened. 

Steve in NE wants to talk about the star that is supposedly being slowed down by an artificial force. This is something we can’t explain and need evidence to support what is causing this deceleration. 

Thank you for tuning in this week! 


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0:00.0

Gettner Drummond is the Attorney General of Oklahoma.

0:03.5

He was born into generational wealth,

0:05.3

became an Eagle Scout, served in the Gulf War,

0:07.8

and now owns a massive working ranch,

0:10.1

a bank, a communications company,

0:11.8

and a $2 million mansion with its own Wikipedia page.

0:15.9

He is a lifelong Republican who, as Attorney General,

0:18.9

has opposed environmental regulations and dropped white-collar

0:22.3

fraud and police brutality cases. He's also, unsurprisingly, a Christian. I mention all of this because

0:28.7

his state wants to use your tax dollars to run religious public schools. I'm not exaggerating here.

0:36.1

The first school established under this regime has stated that

0:39.9

its goal is the indoctrination of children into Catholicism by teaching them that the Bible is true

0:45.6

and that students will go to hell if they don't believe it. So obviously, Drummond, the AG,

0:50.5

is a Christian nationalist who wants to shred the First Amendment so the United States can

0:55.9

become a theocracy, right? Wrong. As Attorney General for Oklahoma, he sued his own state to try and

1:02.7

stop this egregious violation of the First Amendment's protection of religious liberty.

1:07.7

And just last week, the Supreme Court of the United States heard oral arguments in the

1:11.3

case entitled Oklahoma School Board versus Drummond. That's him. So he seems to be a great

1:18.0

example of how someone can be a lifelong conservative Christian while still understanding the

1:23.6

necessity of the separation of religion and government. Just to drive home how important

1:28.7

this is to him, he is running for governor. This lawsuit may very well cost him that election.

1:34.4

Unfortunately, his work may be in vain. Upon listening to the justices during oral arguments,

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