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The Atheist Experience

The Atheist Experience 29.13 with Justin and Jmike 2025-03-30

The Atheist Experience

The Atheist Community of Austin

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4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 128 minutes

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Summary


00:00 Intro

03:14 Steve-NE | Mosaic Law Protects Women
36:29 Art-PA | Representing Spinoza's God
1:02:30 Tim-NY | Human Simulation Is Evidence Of A Creator
1:42:30 David-CA | God Formed The Planets, Not Gravity
1:52:24 Noah-TX | Why Do People Still Believe?
1:59:05 Zak-MD | How Do We Detach From Religion?

SHOW NOTESIn today’s episode of the Atheist Experience, Justin and JMike, shift through the laws of Moses to find how cruel ancient men were before discussing god in a cape that is really just another word for gravity.


Steve in NE proposes that Mosaic law protects women against physical abuse. What happens to the woman under this law if she lies about her virginity? If a woman is stoned as a punishment, how is that protecting women? Why didn't god know that only 45% of women bleed after the first time having intercourse? If women were not property, why is it they could not go free like the way men could? Is war a good reason to rape and enslavement people? Men under this law did not need the brightly colored suits and feathered hats to sell their “property” as concubines.


Art in PA is concerned that Spinoza’s god is being misrepresented. How can god be defined without using the term, “god”? There is no real interesting dispute when language is being used differently to describe something. What would the universe be without this god? What evidence is there for us to conclude that we are manifestations of the mind of god?
Tim in NY argues that just because abiogenesis is real, it does not mean that it is independent of a creator. What evidence is there for us to believe there is a creator to begin with? If one thing creates other things, that does not mean that the first thing also has to have a creator. Extra entities being added will need extra commitments. Why do we need to add the creator stuff into the hypothesis and complicate things? What is the benefit of adding this complication? How do we know there are not an infinite number of gods working together?


David in CA asks the hosts how they think the planets were formed. Justin explains how the accretion disk theory is the current model with gravity pulling things together towards a massive central body. Why do we need to add a creator to this? The caller has a hard time answering whether or not scientists have a good understanding of gravity.
Noah in TX  wonders why so many African Americans still believe in Christianity when the history is easy to research. Justin explains how people are not likely to let go of instinct and centuries of culture until something compels them to do so. Sometimes it can be difficult to convince family members when they know all your flaws already. 


Zak in MD has been an atheist for around 13 years after doing some research and finding that god is a lie. Over the course of time we get conditioned to have an emotional response to things that do not just go away once you leave religion. This takes work and the deprogramming is different for everybody, sometimes taking years to detach. 
Thank you for tuning in this week! Jamie the Blind Limey joins us to close out the show with some final thoughts on caller subjects. 


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0:00.0

Thousands of years ago, people believed that lightning was sent by an angry, human-like god just hanging out on the top of the tallest mountains.

0:07.8

The gods were quite tangible in that river over there, in the dark forest over here.

0:12.7

Then we've developed technology and the skill to explore the mountain tops and the forests and the rough waters, and there were no gods there.

0:19.3

So humanity reconfigured God's location to the

0:21.8

upper limits of the skies, just on the other side of the firmament, a place that surely nobody could

0:26.8

explore. Then we made technology that allowed us to explore the limits of the skies, and there were no

0:31.8

gods there either. So then God's home was moved to outer space, a place totally intangible and unsearchable. Until we

0:39.0

developed technology to explore space and we found there are no gods out there either. So then

0:44.0

God became completely immaterial, completely undetectable and unfalsifiable. Over the course of a few

0:50.3

thousand years, God went from a humanoid just over there to being completely indistinguishable

0:55.8

from non-existence. God is now on the same level of reality as that supermodel girlfriend that your

1:01.7

friend had in high school. You know the one. The guy who kept a picture of her in the wallet would

1:05.7

show it to you, but you could never actually meet her because she lived in Canada far away.

1:09.9

But he also couldn't let you talk to her

1:11.5

on the phone because international phone calls weren't part of your nights a weekend package. If you

1:16.1

have proof that God is not just a fictional internet girlfriend, we'd love to hear about it. The lines are

1:21.1

open and the show starts now. Welcome to the show, everybody. Today is March 30th, 2025. I'm your host, Justin. You might know me as Deconstruction Zone. And I'm joined by the acute, astute, and brilliant J. Mike. How are you, buddy?

1:41.4

I like that. That was cool. I'd feel really special about myself.

1:44.5

Thank you.

1:45.2

I'm good.

1:46.0

I'm really hot.

1:47.9

I mean, I guess not anymore.

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