The Atheist Experience 29.04 with Secular Rarity and Armin Navabi

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🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 129 minutes

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In today’s episode of the Atheist Experience, Secular Rarity and Armin Navabi, add sprinkles to our Sunday(sundaes), swim through the world of proof that atheism is in fact imaginary and not created by a non-god.

Kenneth in VA, wonders if proving god should be done in the mystical sense when the scientific method fails. What is the point of talking about it if you are unable to describe this method? Are you feeling something that is god, or are you describing the feelings themselves? If SR has a pet that he is unable to describe at all, what is the likelihood that the pet is real? When something is happening that you are not in control of, is that what you would describe as god? How does being in a highly emotional state affect your perception of whether or not there is a god involved? How would you value these experiences, if it turns out their origin is not from a larger source, but are coming from you?

Muslim Intellect in the UK asks: Would the world exist if god did not exist? How did you arrive at the position that the existence of the world proves god? Please describe how this is obvious to you, when it may not be obvious to us or anyone else. Why would we take the Koran seriously when we have not even established there is a god, and that particular god brought us the Koran? The message from Allah is worthless without this happening first. Why should we believe a book that says god is real and how do we know if the claims in the book are true?

Mike with no pronouns in SC says that the song, “Imagine” is an atheist anthem and that atheism is imaginary. Why is it a problem for atheists to take a lack of position? How do you decide what question is the biggest question to ask? Somebody that does not have a claim does not need to prove anything. The burden of proof applies to specific claims, not general things. There is no need to mix up concepts and muddy the water. What changed your mind to make you go from a non-believer to a believer? Before your scientific discoveries, was anyone else in your eyes justified in believing in the god that you believe in?

John in Canada believes in a non-god creator and uses the laws of energy and math to explain his position. You are making an equivocation on the word, “create”. Did you really think that explaining that things cause other things would prove your point?
Jackie in MS wants to build a case that idealism as a metaphysical system makes the most sense out of any system. It is not necessarily true that without our perception, things won’t exist. Language having a limit does not give us a reason to reduce the definitions of words to mean another word. Do the qualities of a rock change when there is nothing to look at that rock? Why is it impossible for the universe to exist before there was any consciousness to describe the perception? Do you think we have done enough to understand this topic? Does omnipotence seem weird or does it just break the rules?

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0:00.0	Here at the ACA, we value separation of church and state.
0:04.4	Keeping one's religious beliefs out of governmental policy is critical for ensuring that all people are safe.
0:12.7	Legislating with the explicit intention of criminalizing those who merely disagree with your beliefs is a tried and true recipe for disaster.
0:22.6	We can see the destruction and chaos this causes the world over.
0:27.7	Whether it is Mubarak Bala in Nigeria, Raif Badawi in Saudi Arabia, or Tumaj Salahi in Iran,
0:35.8	we see the horrific consequences of a government that shuns secularism,
0:40.8	reason, and science, and relies on a holy book instead. Now, there are some here in the United States
0:48.8	who want to roll back the protections of secularism and install a theocracy in its place. Those who want Christian
0:56.6	nationalism may drape themselves with the flag, but don't be fooled. This ideology is entirely
1:03.7	anti-American. It goes against one of the most central tenants of this nation's founding and will only lead to greater
1:12.7	misery. If you think there is any justification whatsoever for a non-secular government, call us
1:19.5	because the show's starting right now.
1:30.2	Yes, that's right, everybody.
1:34.3	Welcome, welcome back to another episode of The Atheist Experience.
1:37.1	Today is January 26, 2025.
1:39.1	I am your host, Secular Rarity. And joining me today is the Ayatola apostate extraordinaire, Armandavvi. What's up, brother? Hey, I'm this thing
1:47.5	a show with you. Yeah, man. It's always so fun to be hanging out with you. We always get into
1:53.2	some wild nonsense. And you know what, Armin, we are, we are like five and oh or something at this
2:00.7	point.
2:01.1	There has not been a single person that has ever called while you and I are on the show together that has presented a solid case for their belief.
2:09.3	It is amazing.
2:10.5	I don't know if they are scared.
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