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The Atheist Experience

The Atheist Experience 27.31 08-06-2023 with Secular Rarity and JMike

The Atheist Experience

The Atheist Community of Austin

Religion & Spirituality, Non-profit, Business

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2023

⏱️ 113 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode of the Atheist Experience, Secular Rarity(a.k.a. "Schmike") and Jmike get philosophically fun as callers discuss deconstruction and free will.

Devon in CA calls to discuss how worshiping in two religions at one time does not make sense. Some religions have beliefs that are mutually exclusive, but there are also some that are not. How often do you run into people who have dual beliefs? When you see this, analyze the two and compare the contradictions. What is the criteria used to pick these two different beliefs? It is important to have consistency to help not hold two contradictory beliefs.

Austin from TX informs us that Alex Grey is building a Chapel of Sacred Mirrors in NY, and this work of art encompasses all the theist ways of being. How do you arrive at this being what your religion is about? What are they doing to demonstrate their truth claim of there being a god? How do you determine what is true from religions to incorporate into your world view? How would this be independently verified?

Alan in TX believes we have choices with consequences so therefore we all have free will. Do you believe that if you were given the ability to rewind life, that you would not make the same decision you did five minutes prior? If you chose A over B, is there something that explains why? Are there agents in your brain that can break the causal chain? Where does the free will sneak in? How do you demonstrate that free will exists without referring to things that are predetermined? Do you think your thoughts before you think your thoughts?

Jason, a former megachurch pastor in CA, asks how to latch on to something larger than the self to find new purpose when in the state of post deconstruction. Secular Rarity explains there is nothing that is needed if one already knows how to connect with other people. There is no space to be filled because all you have is the beauty of the world around you, and no longer have the need for added magic. There are lots of systems out there that are incredibly worthwhile in terms of understanding the world and giving us a framework of what we should be doing next. When you step away from the supernatural, you get to discuss the big questions in life. The Clergy Project and Recovering from Religion are two great resources for people that are deconstructing. Love and grace from some religious communities might be conditional.

Dustin in WI believes we have free will because language informs decisions. Free will is not defended by being defeated. How do you demonstrate that something does not work out the same way if we go back in time? Just stating that you can move your arm, does not tell us that the movement was your own free will. Where does the free will come from if it exists?

Thank you for tuning in! You are pre-determined to consider the question of the week: What would be a red flag on a religious dating app? We will see you next week because you don’t have a choice in the matter.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Romans chapter 9 verses 17 and 18 for scripture says to Pharaoh

0:05.2

I raised you up for this very purpose that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth

0:13.9

Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy and he hardens whom he wants to hard now

0:20.5

Look, I'm not even gonna make the obvious dirty joke there, okay?

0:24.2

The the Bible just admitted that God used Pharaoh to like show off

0:30.1

He he allowed Pharaoh to just enslave hundreds of thousands of people for however long to show how cool he was

0:37.7

Admittedly the God of the Bible imposed on Pharaoh's free will just to keep showing off what an absolute ass

0:46.3

If you think the Bible supports free will then call us because the show is starting right now

0:54.2

Oh

0:58.7

Today is August 6th 2023 and I am your host secular rarity and joining me today is the always wonderful J Mike. What is up, man?

1:07.6

I am

1:09.7

Nothing really. I'm good just I look forward to this day out of the week every day whether I listen or or on the show

1:17.1

I enjoy much more being on the show. I'm kind of selfish in that way

1:20.8

That's fair then then then watching but yes

1:23.3

So I'm excited and you and you don't have a choice in the matter is the way I see it

1:26.3

You're just determined to to have more fun being on the show than then watching it

1:31.4

There's nothing we can do about that unless God steps in and like like changes our free will or something which

1:37.5

Apparently can happen. We've got evidence of that. Yeah, but

1:41.3

We've got some calls lining up folks, but as always we want more of them

1:46.4

We definitely want to hear from our theist friends out there. So give us a call at five one two nine nine one nine two four two or

1:53.6

Hit us up on the web at tiny.cc slash call

1:57.4

AXP as a reminder the atheist experience is a product of the atheist community of Austin a five oh one C3

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