Hello and welcome to the Storygrid podcast. This is a show dedicated to helping you level up your craft as a writer.

My name is Tim Graal and I'm a writer and the behind the scenes guy here at Storygrid.

This podcast episode is hosted by StoryGrid certified editor Kimberly Kessler, alongside Sean Coyne, the founder of StoryGrid, and an editor with over 30 years of

experience. In this episode, Kim and Sean discussed the artists wants, needs, and desires. Before we

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Okay, that's all on the announcement.

So let me turn it over to Kim and Sean.

Okay, Sean, you've been giving us an education in wants and needs and desires.

And it really brought up some really cool things on our last call about, we were talking

about George R.R. Martin and this valence of language. And we were talking about knowing sort of like

what the characters want, what the character's motivation is. And I think it really sparked

something to take it all the way back to not just your protagonist,

but to you as an author, artist, ourselves.

So how do you think what our as the author artist, as the godlike figure in a story,

our wants and needs and desires and how they inform the stories that we're telling?

Oh, well, I think this is a very, very deep question, and it's a very, very good question,

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