I feel so excited to be a documentary filmmaker living in this age where there is so much evidence.

It's just like, you know, we live in the 21st century, we live in a digital age.

This stuff is going to get found.

I'm Sean Fantasy, editor and chief of the ringer, and this is the big picture.

A conversation show with directors, writers, and the creative minds behind the most interesting

movies in the world.

Today's show is with one of my favorite young documentarians, Erin Lee Carr.

She has a keen eye for complex and upsetting true crime stories.

Her first feature thought crimes directed for HBO at just 26 years old explored the story

of the so-called Cannibal Cop, a New York City police officer who fantasized in online

chatroom about murdering women and was prosecuted for his fantasies.

She followed that up with another doc for HBO last year's Mommy Dead and Dearest, a grueling

film about Munchausen Syndrome.

Both films tap into a kind of moral ambiguity that is without clear answers.

Her favors access to her subjects to show their foibles up close.

Her new project is Drug Short, an installment in Netflix's six-part doc series Dirty Money.

Her episode chronicles the manipulation of pharmaceutical drug prices, the impact it

has on people's lives, and the stock market pirates who helped tear down one company in

particular.

Carr got her start working at digital media companies like Vyson Vox, and she's the daughter

of the late lionized New York Times columnist and reported David Carr.

In her movies, you can feel a combination of her dad's nose for a story and how those

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