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Foundering

The App That’s Helping Gay Couples Have Kids in China

Foundering

Bloomberg

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4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2019

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

With 40 million users, Blued is a popular dating app for gay men in China. This week on Decrypted, we explore the company's next venture: a service to help gay couples have babies by surrogate in California.

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A few weeks ago I took a trip to the eastern side of Beijing to an area called Choyang. This part of the city is full of skate shops, fashion boutiques and

0:42.3

buildings under construction.

0:44.0

Of course, there's always construction in Beijing.

0:47.0

I was there to visit the office of Blueard, a hugely popular social network for gay men, and to meet the founder Gungle. In person he's

0:56.0

a bit surprising. He's 41 he's got a close-cropped haircut wearing a Nike

1:01.0

branded Just Doit t-shirt and dark navy blue sweat pants.

1:05.0

He really does not look like a tech bro or an LGBT icon.

1:09.0

If anything he reminds me a bit of my suburban uncle.

1:13.2

Gungla is probably the most famous gay man in China now.

1:16.9

But not that long ago, he wasn't openly gay.

1:19.6

He was a police officer, married to a woman.

1:21.9

So yes, Gungla is definitely surprising. In China, gay

1:25.0

rights are non-existent and under President Xi Jinping there's been a crackdown on

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