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World Of Secrets

The Apartheid Killer: 2. ‘We love Louis’

World Of Secrets

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.7765 Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2024

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Who killed Edward and so many others? His name was Louis van Schoor and we found him. Some people see one of South Africa’s most prolific mass killers as a hero. Would the “apartheid killer” admit to the multiple shootings and killings? Hosted by Ayanda Charlie and Charlie Northcott.

Since this episode was recorded, it has been announced that Louis van Schoor died, on 25 July 2024. There will be more about this later in the series. This was a four-year investigation and the interviews with Louis van Schoor were recorded in 2022 and 2023.

Please note, this episode of World of Secrets includes descriptions of death and violence, which some listeners may find distressing.

Season 3 of World of Secrets is a collaboration with the BBC World Service investigations unit, Africa Eye. Here’s a link to the BBC Africa Eye film, which we recommend you watch after listening to this podcast: https://youtu.be/QPB42_uLLh0 If you are in the UK, you can watch on BBC iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0021dvm

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0:00.0

This was an impregnable fortress. The only way you get out was in a wooden box.

0:05.0

The controversial maximum security prison impossible to escape from.

0:09.0

And one of the duties of a political prisoner is the escape.

0:12.0

The IRA inmates who found a way. of a political prisoner is the escape.

0:12.5

The IRA inmates who found a way.

0:14.5

I'm Carlo Gableer and I'll be navigating a path

0:19.5

through the disturbing inside story of the biggest jailbreak in British and Irish history.

0:25.0

The narrative that they want is that this is a big achievement by them.

0:28.5

Escape from the Maze, listen first on BBC Sounds.

0:35.0

Episodes of season 3 of World of Secrets will be released weekly on Mondays wherever you get your BBC podcast.

0:41.0

If you're in the UK you can listen to the latest episode a week

0:45.0

early first on BBC Sounds. Before we start this episode of World of

0:52.2

Secrets includes descriptions of death and violence, which some listeners may find distressing.

1:02.0

We're just arriving at the home of one of South Africa's most notorious killers,

1:07.0

the man who murdered Edward Sunnis.

1:11.0

It's actually worse than I thought it would be. I didn't realize it was going to be so

1:15.3

kind of rudimentary. It looks like just enough to shelter someone.

1:24.0

The wooden shack in front of us sits below a sloping mountain.

1:28.0

It's been raining for hours and there's a mist hugging the trees.

1:32.0

This is a remote area, a good place to hide

1:36.7

when you don't want the world to find you. One of the conditions for us

1:41.5

visiting this place is that we will not reveal its location.

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