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Yeah. Welcome to the Untold Story Podcast, everybody.

I'm Martha McCallum, and I am joined today by Jonathan Haidt, who you know as the author of several books, examining our culture and society.

The most recent, which is getting an enormous amount of well-deserved attention,

is called The Anxious Generation,

how the great rewiring of childhood is causing an epidemic of mental illness.

Jonathan, welcome. It's great to have you with us today.

Thanks so much, Martha.

It's pleasure to be talking with you.

So I have three Gen Z children.

So everything in your book describes anxieties and stresses

since the invention of the iPhone and the selfie

that I think have permeated their lives.

I look at them as guinea pigs of this great frightening experiment.

And I see the impact on them.

I see it on other people their age, even in tragic ways and in some of the

extended circle of people that we know. So thank you, first of all, for writing this book. And I'd

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