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Oak orchard Creek near Lewiston, New York at one of the biggest harbors in Lake

Ontario. It can be a thousand feet wide in some spots. So the name of Creek I've

even seen in the local some of the local newspapers. And I'm even sure why it's

called a creek like it really should be a river. But it's here in 1827 where a man's

body is pulled out of the water. And who he was or rather who people thought he

was would change American politics and actually would change it forever.

It all starts like you're flipping through pages of a textbook and there you

come on the 1832 presidential election. What is this? You have one state

Vermont colored green and it's like this is the anti-Musonic party. They

received seven votes. First of all, Vermont had seven votes. He had actually had more

electoral votes than twice as many as it does now. It's just this one little

blip in this one election in this one state. And the party doesn't report it

a presidential election after it's always been kind of a weird like with

the mason's there. There's a Masonic lodge in my town. Why would anybody

everybody want to start a political party around that? So let's take ourselves

back. We're going to talk about 1827. So when this body's pulled out of the

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