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The Anatomy of Autocracy: Timothy Snyder (2021)

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Society & Culture, History, Documentary

4.715K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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When a mob of pro-Trump supporters violently stormed the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021 they also incited a defining moment in United States history. Now what? We revisit our conversation with historian Timothy Snyder about how we got here and what an insurrection could mean for the future of America.

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0:00.0

On January 6th, a group of people angry at the electoral loss of President Donald Trump

0:05.8

stormed the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to stop the certification of the election.

0:11.3

They chanted, stop the steal, claiming the election had been stolen by the Democratic

0:15.6

Party.

0:16.9

For many, that day felt like a direct attack on the very idea of elections.

0:22.0

It was a scene many Americans believed only happened in failed states.

0:26.5

One year later, the reverberations are still being felt.

0:30.7

Politicians and many other Americans still believe the election was stolen.

0:35.0

Divisions and anger linger.

0:36.8

An especially committee in the House of Representatives is still investigating what happened that day.

0:42.4

They have yet to arrive at any definitive answers.

0:45.7

And without answers, there are concerns that something like January 6th could happen

0:50.3

again after future elections.

0:53.0

Like in early 2021, we reached out to Timothy Snyder, a history professor at Yale, who specializes

0:59.0

in the study of autocracy in modern nation states, to try and make sense of what had just happened.

1:05.4

As a proper historian, I can only say that like in 50 years, we'll understand it a lot

1:09.6

better than we do now.

1:12.4

He told us the warning signs were all there, and that such events don't pop out of nowhere.

1:17.6

January 6th, honestly, for me, was a bit of an anticlimax because I, I mean, no is a

1:22.7

strong word, but I would have been very surprised if it hadn't happened.

1:27.3

We recently revisited this conversation and found that many of his insights still apply.

1:32.6

Many of the things he warned about came true.

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